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Boy, 16, with autism had seizure, was handcuffed and arrested, California mom says
ABC 6 ^ | 2/1/2020 | Cory James

Posted on 02/01/2020 3:21:50 PM PST by wastedyears

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To: wastedyears
Great way to own the city.

Not if I'm on the jury.

The police have a job to do and it's not determining some sort of medical history first. My guess is that this "boy" suffered little more than a temporary personal inconvenience, just as I did when a policeman pulled me over last month.

ML/NJ

41 posted on 02/01/2020 4:11:10 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: MrEdd

He had his mom there who had called the ambulance and was attempting to explain the situation to the police who beat the ambulance to the scene.
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Perhaps the mom, who is with near certainly an illegal alien, should learn more English...it would come in handy in situations such as this.


42 posted on 02/01/2020 4:11:20 PM PST by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: humblegunner

If someone is actually having a seizure, handcuffing them instead of taking them to a hospital is just plain dumb. What would you say if a police officer decided to arrest someone for trespassing because they collapsed from a heart attack on somebody’s lawn instead of calling for an ambulance and administering CPR?


43 posted on 02/01/2020 4:11:59 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: TexasGator

Seriously, plain and simple, it is out of hand...


44 posted on 02/01/2020 4:12:44 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: House Atreides

There it is... good job... Blame the victim. You know how many natural born citizens from Texas or Alabama cannot be understood because of their accent alone?


45 posted on 02/01/2020 4:17:59 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

Did he have a medical alert bracelet?
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Very good question.”
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Why should he have to? Why should anyone have to?

Since when did this become law to prevent violation of your rights?
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He shouldn’t “have to” legally but he should as a matter of common sense. Why should he? Seriously Dude, if you need help understanding the benefits of wearing a medical alert bracelet, I can’t help you.


46 posted on 02/01/2020 4:19:08 PM PST by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: wastedyears

Given mama’s lack of English in the interview, is she REALLY a Californian?

IF the Barneys understood Spanish, perhaps they should have listened to mama before beating on the boy? In any event, I think that mama and son are well on their way to a yuuuge settlement from the city/county/state and the PD!


47 posted on 02/01/2020 4:25:25 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: House Atreides

I completely understand, but it should never be required to prevent LE from giving you the other kind of bracelets.


48 posted on 02/01/2020 4:28:16 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: TexasGator
Did he have a medical alert bracelet?

Was he wearing socks?

Was he wearing briefs or boxers?

Was he wearing sneakers or loafers?

Was he wearing a watch and if so what hand?

Was he wearing a shirt, a hoodie or a sweater?

Was he wearing a hat?

so many questions and very little in formation. There's definitely a cover up going on here..............

49 posted on 02/01/2020 4:28:16 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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To: Does so

And because training costs money that municipalities don’t want to spend. They would rather hire veteran LE already trained but often carry their own baggage.


50 posted on 02/01/2020 4:30:46 PM PST by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: heartwood; All
It is true that people coming out of a seizure can be confused and combative.
The police are not supposed to arrest such a person; they may need to restrain him so that EMS can treat.
It might be better just to give him space.
There is no report here that he was combative.

Everything you say is absolutely correct.

You might also have added the article does not say the child was arrested as a matter of law. Sitting in the back of a police unit does not constitute such an arrest and being placed on the ground may have been an expedient means of avoiding risk of injury to the child.

51 posted on 02/01/2020 4:34:56 PM PST by frog in a pot (The House - American Left: "Trump may take no action that may favor him politically.")
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To: ml/nj
My guess is that this "boy" suffered little more than a temporary personal inconvenience, just as I did when a policeman pulled me over last month.

He cuffed you and put you in the squad car?

52 posted on 02/01/2020 4:34:58 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

I think that mama and son are well on their way to a yuuuge settlement from the city/county/state and the PD!
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Possibly but unlikely. It depends upon what the body cams show.


53 posted on 02/01/2020 4:36:04 PM PST by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: House Atreides; TexasGator

Unfortunately doctors are not in the habit of recommending patients get medical alert.


54 posted on 02/01/2020 4:37:18 PM PST by the_daug
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To: wastedyears

maybe after eight years of vilification from obummer along with an additional three years of temper tantrums and stompy feet from looney lefties could it be law enforcement is getting tired of dealing with all the bullsh*t thrown at them like the rest of us are...


55 posted on 02/01/2020 4:37:48 PM PST by heavy metal (truth trumps lies...)
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To: frog in a pot

Or they could have just let him be until the EMTs got there.

Post-seizure and hypoglycemic patients can be combative, but they are very unlikely to be aggressive. No energy and their radius of awareness is about five feet.

Give them space.


56 posted on 02/01/2020 4:41:07 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: frog in a pot

Also I object as a matter of civic principle to cops handcuffing people until they can sort things out. IMO there had better be grounds for charges, otherwise it’s no way to treat the citizens of a free country.


57 posted on 02/01/2020 4:45:17 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: the_daug

I don’t believe that they recommend handcuffing them either.


58 posted on 02/01/2020 4:45:21 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: humblegunner

“Autism is a get out of cufffs (sic)free card?”

Seizure is a medical issue. Police patrol officers should have enough intelligence to refer a medical issue—someone seeking medical help—to paramedics.

If you’re sober you should know this, so we’ll chalk it up to thoughtless offhand comment. If not, don’t drink and post.


59 posted on 02/01/2020 4:55:46 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: frog in a pot

“Sitting in the back of a police unit does not constitute such an arrest”

And this is another problem. Being handcuffed and imprisoned even temporarily should never be considered as simple “detainment”. The cuffs should never go on until an officer is willing to commit to and conduct a legal arrest.


60 posted on 02/01/2020 4:58:18 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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