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Boy, 16, with autism had seizure, was handcuffed and arrested, California mom says
ABC 6 ^ | 2/1/2020 | Cory James

Posted on 02/01/2020 3:21:50 PM PST by wastedyears

FRESNO, Calif. -- A California mother is outraged after she says her son, who has autism, was placed in handcuffs instead of being taken to the hospital.

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To: wastedyears; All

Those questioning whether those with Autism are above the law are missing the point: No crime was committed. The 911 call requested EMS. Police will respond to calls like this if they are closer than EMS.

Given the fact that this was CA, they probably assumed an immediate OD and thought he was being combative just because, not knowing or believing that he had a neurological condition. The video probably clears that up a little, but it wouldn’t load for me.

I had a doc in the ER see my dialysis access and assume that I was a heroin addict, and I was in for chronic nausea, vomiting, and dehydration. I was 21. As minor as that was, it was infuriating to me, so I can only imagine how this family feels.


21 posted on 02/01/2020 3:55:35 PM PST by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: yarddog
In Ancient Rome, it was illegal to shackle a Roman Citizen for any reason.

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Moving forward a few millenniums is that still that way today?

22 posted on 02/01/2020 3:56:14 PM PST by deport
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To: wastedyears

Did he have a medical alert bracelet?


23 posted on 02/01/2020 3:57:19 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: wastedyears

My daughter has seizures. I’d be livid if that happened to her!


24 posted on 02/01/2020 3:58:13 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: TexasGator

Should he have to? Why? Should everyone have to wear a “I’m a good guy don’t shoot me” sign to keep from having their basic constitutional rights violated or being shot dead every time there is a LE interaction?

It’s out of hand...


25 posted on 02/01/2020 4:00:36 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Tacrolimus1mg

In the video you can hear a woman speaking what seems to be Spanish...yet the article quotes her as if she was speaking English....


26 posted on 02/01/2020 4:02:00 PM PST by TaxPayer2000 (The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government...)
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To: Tacrolimus1mg

No, Humblegunner didn’t miss any point.
This is just his typical reaction to most things and he generally doesn’t think a crime is required unless he gets enough pushback on a thread to make him change his mind.


27 posted on 02/01/2020 4:02:48 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: TexasGator

Did he have a medical alert bracelet?
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Very good question.


28 posted on 02/01/2020 4:02:49 PM PST by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: humblegunner

From the report, the teen did nothing wrong. He was in the bathroom when he had a seizure. They called 911 but the cops showed up before the paramedics.

And the police obviously didn’t know how to deal with this situation.


29 posted on 02/01/2020 4:03:52 PM PST by david1292
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To: humblegunner

Why are you assuming there were any grounds for arrest or handcuffing at all?

It is true that people coming out of a seizure can be confused and combative. The police are not supposed to arrest such a person; they may need to restrain him so that EMS can treat. It might be better just to give him space.

There is no report here that he was combative.


30 posted on 02/01/2020 4:04:12 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: TexasGator

He had his mom there who had called the ambulance and was attempting to explain the situation to the police who beat the ambulance to the scene.


31 posted on 02/01/2020 4:04:20 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Openurmind

“Should he have to? Why?”

You don’t know why?


32 posted on 02/01/2020 4:04:33 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Openurmind

“Should everyone have to wear a “I’m a good guy don’t shoot me” sign to keep from having their basic constitutional rights violated or being shot dead every time there is a LE interaction?”

ROTFLMAO!


33 posted on 02/01/2020 4:05:39 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: wastedyears
Ponce told Action News police stopped by the hospital Friday with a "certificate of release" form, paperwork that states the teen will not be arrested.

"Certificate of Release", ha! No doubt, they had her sign it too. "Here, sign this certificate of release please. It just says we are releasing your son". Had she read it, she would have seen she was releasing the Fresno PD from liability.

As a wise person once said, "there are few bad situations that can't be made worse by calling the police". At least the boy survived.

34 posted on 02/01/2020 4:05:44 PM PST by ETCM
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To: humblegunner

If you were seizing should you be arrested?
Autistic people are no better & no worse. They are people.


35 posted on 02/01/2020 4:06:13 PM PST by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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To: AppyPappy

Is a “5150” hold/evaluation technically considered an arrest? (Not saying that is what happened in this case...just always wondered).


36 posted on 02/01/2020 4:07:16 PM PST by Drago
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To: humblegunner

What?
So having a seizure is illegal? Are you always an idiot?


37 posted on 02/01/2020 4:07:42 PM PST by for-q-clinton
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To: House Atreides

“Did he have a medical alert bracelet?
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Very good question.”

Why should he have to? Why should anyone have to?

Since when did this become law to prevent violation of your rights?


38 posted on 02/01/2020 4:07:59 PM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: humblegunner
Autism is a get out of cufffs free card?

Have you heard or read of stories of people with autism? He also had a seizure at the time. Is an appropriate response to arrest him?

39 posted on 02/01/2020 4:09:03 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: deport

Yes it is still illegal in the Roman Empire.


40 posted on 02/01/2020 4:09:59 PM PST by yarddog ( For I am persuaded.)
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