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Idaho cold case of outlaw missing since 1916 solved by DNA, genetic genealogy
Fox News ^ | 01/01/20 | Robert Gearty

Posted on 01/01/2020 8:29:02 AM PST by Artemis Webb

DNA and genetic genealogy have helped investigators solve a century-old Idaho mystery.

Outlaw Joseph Henry Loveless was killed and dismembered in 1916 and buried in a shallow grave in Buffalo Cave outside Dubois. At the time, Loveless was wanted for escaping from a jail where he was being held for killing his wife with an ax.

Loveless’ remains were found in the cave four decades ago—but not his head--and they remained unidentified until just recently.

Lee Bingham Redgrave, a genealogist with the nonprofit DNA Doe Project, determined the remains belonged to Loveless after painstaking research that included constructing an elaborate family tree of Loveless' extended relatives.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: axemurderer; crime; dna; dnadoeproject; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; idaho
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To: davidb56

[[Who killed him and cut off his head?]]

Relatives of a past president perhaps?


21 posted on 01/01/2020 9:33:28 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434
Thx ... they look scary in their own way, but not quite like Loveless.
He looks like he's wearing heavy-duty make up.
22 posted on 01/01/2020 9:37:42 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: davidb56

Her family?


23 posted on 01/01/2020 9:39:54 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: oh8eleven

He very likely was- they did that for photos- photos back then were a big deal- they had to sit completely still for a good long time, and often had to have their heads propped against something behind them to keep them from moving- and the photographer likely insisted on them using makeup to cover blemishes- heavy makeup- they didn’t have photoshop back then to make everything look good after- so they overcompensated with makeup, wardrobes, etc-


24 posted on 01/01/2020 9:41:02 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434; oh8eleven

That’s part of it, but keep in mind everyone in photos from that era is dead...


25 posted on 01/01/2020 10:05:45 AM PST by null and void (The government wants to disarm us after 243 yrs 'cuz they plan to do things we would shoot them for!)
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To: Gen.Blather
Warning!!! Low hanging fast ball, needs to be hit out of the park.

Movie, staring Clint Eastwood, The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976) delivers the line,- "Hell with {them} that fella[s]. Buzzards Gotta Eat, Same As The Worms!!"

26 posted on 01/01/2020 11:07:27 AM PST by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's lie, only while testifying, as taught in their respected Police Academy(s).)
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To: Bob434

By 1916 photography had progressed to the snapshot stage.


27 posted on 01/01/2020 11:15:18 AM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Artemis Webb

I guess they’ve pretty much eliminated suicide, huh?


28 posted on 01/01/2020 11:22:38 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: davidb56

Really. That’s what I want to know. Who killed him? That case certainly hasn’t been solved. Easy enough to determine he was him since the body was wearing the same clothes as the wanted poster. Unless he put his clothes on someone else to help in his escape. People need to stay out of that cave.

I watched ID channel last night about the 1992 murder of a young PA teacher, Christy Mirack. Familial DNA testing was done last year and in two days they found the bad guy. Fascinating but yet another reason (even if you have nothing to hide) to not send in your DNA to those Ancestry and 23 & Me or whatever testing places. Of course, dingy Aunt Gertie probably already sent in hers and that’ll link back to you.


29 posted on 01/01/2020 11:43:57 AM PST by bgill
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To: Artemis Webb

Long time practice of shoot, shovel, and shut up.


30 posted on 01/01/2020 11:57:08 AM PST by glorgau
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To: allendale

He axed his wife.
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What did he axe her? ;-)


31 posted on 01/01/2020 11:59:57 AM PST by House Atreides (Boycott the NFL 100% — PERMANENTLY)
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To: davidb56

Is there a Clinton connection?


32 posted on 01/01/2020 12:01:50 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If you want a definition of "bullying" just watch the Democrats in the Senate)
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To: bgill

What you are recommending amounts to saying that your relatives should be allowed to get away with murder and mayhem.

I don’t consider my self or my family to be above the law, but you do you.


33 posted on 01/01/2020 12:06:24 PM PST by Go_Raiders (The fact is, we really don't know anything. It's all guesswork and rationalization.)
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To: Hiddigeigei

wetplate and other types similar were very popular still for a good long time- they are even still somewhat popular- (which was used a lot by folks like ansel adams, and still used today by landscape photographers- though not as widespread- folks can now achieve looks similar to wetplate, tin type, medium format etc with digital photos and using photoshop to manipulate the photos now


34 posted on 01/01/2020 12:19:39 PM PST by Bob434
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To: House Atreides

[[What did he axe her?]]

Where the ax was


35 posted on 01/01/2020 12:20:09 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Hiddigeigei

and don’t forget- not a lot of folks could afford the old brownies- and the film and developing costs etc, and the like- they still would get dressed and get their portraits done professionally and it was still a big deal- and many pro photographers still used the honkin big old cumbersome equipment- We have family portraits from the early 1900’s and even mid 1900’s that the photographers used those cameras-

The brownies were good, but the photo quality just lacked what medium format and wetplate could deliver- That’s why folks like Ansel still preferred to tote the huge cameras around- and why portrait professionals used them- They still use medium format, though much modernized ones-


36 posted on 01/01/2020 12:30:28 PM PST by Bob434
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His wife’s family finally caught up with him ?

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37 posted on 01/01/2020 12:36:26 PM PST by elbook
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To: Go_Raiders

Still hung over from celebrating I see.


38 posted on 01/01/2020 12:44:44 PM PST by bgill
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To: Bob434

Are the wetplate photos the ones on glass? My sister has boxes of those that had been stashed in our family homestead.


39 posted on 01/01/2020 12:49:41 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (God issued a commandment against envy. What others have is not our business. - Star Parker)
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To: gibsonguy

The Secret Service can now close the case file opened by S.S. Agents West and Gordon, during the Ulysses S. Grant administration.


40 posted on 01/01/2020 1:01:29 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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