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Big surprise! Leftist medical researchers are about as trustworthy as leftist "climate researchers"
1 posted on 12/19/2019 10:08:33 AM PST by fireman15
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Saying red meat is worse than white meat is racist.


2 posted on 12/19/2019 10:15:27 AM PST by fruser1
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Yes, I'm pretty much at the point of questioning a lot of what we've been told by "scientists/researchers" over the past few decades, particularly if there is an obvious Leftist bent to the org doing the "study".
3 posted on 12/19/2019 10:18:09 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (Soon. Boom. Bombshell. Did I miss any?)
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To: fireman15

And the response has been anger from the medical community, a very unscientific response.


So, they had a cow?


4 posted on 12/19/2019 10:26:49 AM PST by pa_dweller (This tagline was not generated by a Russion bot!)
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****decades of research saying that meat, especially red and processed meat, is bad for health, allegedly causing heart disease and cancer.***

I remember the original tests done by scientists way back in the 1960s on grilled steaks. The found carcinogens in the meat! After taking their samples, they ATE the steaks.


5 posted on 12/19/2019 10:27:51 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Any “science” that is designed to alter behaviors - what you eat, how you act, what you drive, how you have sex...whatever...is agenda driven and should be taken with a grain of salt (which is also just fine for you).


6 posted on 12/19/2019 10:31:05 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (It's the corruption, stupid)
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I am 67 years old. If I want a burger, a steak, meat loaf, or any of the current sandwich meats available, I will eat that! Whether the cuisine be European, Asian, or good ol’ Americano!


7 posted on 12/19/2019 10:44:22 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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After all, they are the experts, so who can trump them?

Right! I mean how many prognostications by economic “experts” turn out to be correct?

8 posted on 12/19/2019 10:52:55 AM PST by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: fireman15
I will not give up either steak or bacon. I'm going to die anyway, no matter what I eat, so I might as well enjoy my meals while I can.
9 posted on 12/19/2019 10:57:49 AM PST by JoeFromSidney (Colonel (Retired) USAF.)
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To: fireman15
The good Lord in his resurrected body asked for meat. This means two things:
10 posted on 12/19/2019 10:59:33 AM PST by DannyTN
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All because Ancel Keyes had a theory about red meat and cherry picked / fudged data to support that theory and then systematically used his own celebrity (as did his followers after him) for decades to ruin anyone who dared question that theory. Research grants cancelled, publications that had printed different results invited Keyes to write prefaces saying the study was garbage, etc. Science? Forbidden! the stakes were too high to wait for data!

This is the foundation that the war on saturated fat was built on.

11 posted on 12/19/2019 11:09:22 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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I’m pretty sure you can eat any food you want as long as you aren’t a glutton about it. Eating according to these health nut diets isn’t healthy. Your body will tell you what to eat.


12 posted on 12/19/2019 11:22:41 AM PST by BuffaloJack ("Security does not exist in nature. Everything has risk." Henry Savage)
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To: fireman15

This was all a conspiracy by Big Chicken.


13 posted on 12/19/2019 11:31:08 AM PST by Boogieman
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>> Apparently, when we take years of bad research falsely showing meat is bad, and combine all these bad studies, it somehow provides a true result. <<

Well, yes. It’s called “significance.” Tests on 1,000 patients are more valid than tests on 100 patients. Tests performed 100 ways are better than tests performed 1 way. The problem is when only insignificant tests get thrown out, and only the ones showing significant results are paid attention to, it can create the false understanding that all the data agree, when in fact, only the data that agree agree.


14 posted on 12/19/2019 11:45:11 AM PST by dangus
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1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
15 posted on 12/19/2019 11:57:17 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: AlligatorEyes; LouisianaJoanof Arc; dp0622; thesearethetimes...; jacquej; GnuThere; ...

LOW CARB / KETO PING!!!

I saw this posted from Fireman a couple of days ago...finally getting it out to the group in case some of you missed it.

The death match has begun...if fatty red meat is shown to be healthy (which, of course, it is), and that makes it into the mainstream, the Left will be DECIMATED, as ending our ‘addiction to meat’ is one of the key elements of their idiotic ‘sustainability’ goals. But they won’t go down easy, it’s not ideology they’re fighting for, there is also, literally, trillions of dollars at stake in the medical/nutrition/food industries if people start becoming healthy by eating meat and skipping carbs...so that cannot be allowed!

[p.s., anyone wanting to join, or leave, my Low-Carb ping list, just let me know, privately or publicly]


21 posted on 12/22/2019 12:10:31 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: fireman15

Excellent read!


27 posted on 12/22/2019 4:22:47 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: fireman15; All

Dr Peter Ballerstede addresses a similar issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRmwobXCc4c

Low Carb Down Under has hours and hours of good info
https://www.youtube.com/user/lowcarbdownunder/videos

enjoy ;^)


29 posted on 12/22/2019 8:14:46 AM PST by TexasTransplant (Damn the Torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead!)
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