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Military women are expected to be ‘good soldiers’ and have abortions. Pete Buttigieg’s plan would make...
LIVE ACTION NEWS ^ | Dec, 2, 2019 | Nancy Flanders |

Posted on 12/02/2019 5:20:56 PM PST by Morgana

FULL TITLE: Military women are expected to be ‘good soldiers’ and have abortions. Pete Buttigieg’s plan would make it worse for them.

On November 11, presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg revealed his plan to help veterans, including by eliminating what he calls “barriers to women’s success in the armed forces.” According to his campaign, the plan states that as president, Buttigieg would “ensure women’s health needs, including reproductive care, are accessible while they serve.”

Abortion advocates have long been pushing for easier access to abortion for women in the military, claiming that women facing unplanned pregnancies need access to abortion in order to succeed. Buttigieg’s comments prove that this thought process is alive and well. But is it true?

The rate of unplanned pregnancy in the military is actually higher — much higher — than the rate of unplanned pregnancy among civilians. According to the pro-abortion group Ibis Reproductive Health, there are about 72 unplanned pregnancies per 1,000 women of reproductive age in the military vs. 45 unplanned pregnancies per 1,000 civilian women.

“Although both planned and unplanned pregnancy can be compatible with a successful military career, each has the potential to lead to a host of negative career impacts including a woman’s voluntary separation from military service or involuntary separation,” said Ibis. “[…] Unintended pregnancy may compromise a woman’s career trajectory in a number of other ways [… and] may also force a woman to leave her military tour early, making career advancement more difficult.”

Basically, the pro-abortion argument is that military women need abortion so that they can advance their careers. Once again, abortion and society pit women against their own children. The abortion industry forces women to choose between their career and their child and call it “freedom.”

Bethany Saros became pregnant while she was stationed in Iraq. Her relationship with the baby’s father did not last, and she knew she would have to choose — her career or her baby — with no support.

“One of the stigmas attached to a female getting pregnant on a deployment is the assumption that she did it on purpose,” Saros wrote in an essay for Salon. “It’s whispered about any time the word ‘pregnancy’ comes up right before or during a combat tour. The unspoken code is that a good soldier will have an abortion, continue the mission, and get some sympathy because she chose duty over motherhood. But for the woman who chooses motherhood over duty, well, she must have been trying to get out of deployment.”

When her military boyfriend broke up with her the day she told him she was pregnant, she said, “I can’t do an abortion. I just can’t.” So she didn’t. With the blessing of her command sergeant major, she left the Army, despite all of the gossip that surrounded her decision. After all of her efforts to succeed in the military were undone because of a lack of support for single mothers, not because of a lack of abortion access.

But what about the other women — the ones who feel they have to be “good soldiers” and have abortions? According to Jody Duffy, RN, a former Army officer and military spouse of 35 years, there are no concrete numbers of how many abortions occur among military women. A large number of them visit the military medical facility to verify they are pregnant, she explained, but they never go back. Instead, they likely visit a local abortion facility, or wait until they are on leave to have an abortion near home, making it impossible to determine how many abortions are occurring among military women. That decision to abort in order to protect their careers can lead to unforeseen problems down the road.

Duffy added:

The pain and grief of abortion only adds more stress and conflict to their lives. Whether it is the female soldier not wanting to sacrifice her military career or feeling pressured to fulfill her duty, or the male soldier feeling fatherhood may stand in the way of his mission, sacrificing our unborn children to abortion is an unfortunate and frequent reality of military life. Abortion decisions often involve varying degrees of pressure and conflict. This predisposes them to have more intense post abortion reactions and even trauma.

It is a tragedy that the women (and men) who serve the United States feel pressured to abort their own children in order to continue that mission. Duffy notes that the grief and regret women can feel from an unwanted abortion may follow them throughout their lives. As they return to civilian life at some point, those feelings won’t fade and may contribute to the rising rate of suicide among young veterans, she explains.

So what has abortion solved for these women? Nothing. It has simply replaced their original so-called “problem” — a baby — with a new one. And that’s what Buttigieg’s plan supports, thereby further signaling to women that they aren’t “good soldiers” if they choose life, that they aren’t strong enough to be mothers and soldiers, and that the government isn’t interested in helping them to have their babies — only to have abortions.

What pregnant and parenting women in the military actually need is the same thing that pregnant and parenting civilian women need: support. Their careers should be protected while they take maternity leave. Resources should be available such as access to quality health care and baby gear. No woman who has dedicated her life to serving her country, and has already sacrificed so much in order to do so, should be expected to also sacrifice the life of her child.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: abortion; democrats; genderdysphoria; homosexualagenda; indiana; infanticide; medicareforall; mikepence; military; obamacare; petebuttigieg; prolife; southbend
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To: gundog

Many female enlisted have used pregnancy to get out of their enlistment contract.


21 posted on 12/02/2019 5:52:15 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Everyone who favors socialism plans on the government taking other people's money, not theirs.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“ Many female enlisted have used pregnancy to get out of their enlistment contract”

After many years in the military and during war time I never knew of any. Served with a lot of exemplary female personnel. On Deployment, getting shot at, too.

Many men have used abortion to get out of their fatherhood responsibilities

Dwell on that for a while


22 posted on 12/02/2019 6:01:21 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

Didn’t say they weren’t good people. But the military life isn’t for everyone.


23 posted on 12/02/2019 6:06:54 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Everyone who favors socialism plans on the government taking other people's money, not theirs.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“ better than demanding they have abortions.

also will stop women from ‘accidentally’ getting pregnant to avoid deployment.”

Ugh boy.

How about coming up with, for men, a group I carcinogen, stroke inducing chemical that makes men unattractive to women (suppressing phermones) making them infertile and try to force them to take it.

Never happen. It would never be marketed, it’s never been in research phase. Men won’t do it.

They put that burden on women


24 posted on 12/02/2019 6:06:55 PM PST by stanne
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“ Didn’t say they weren’t good people”

It’s exactly what you did


25 posted on 12/02/2019 6:08:01 PM PST by stanne
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To: Morgana
After all of her efforts to succeed in the military were undone because of a lack of support for single mothers, not because of a lack of abortion access.

Want to succeed in the military? Don't get pregnant down range.

26 posted on 12/02/2019 6:15:13 PM PST by Gamecock (Time is short Eternity is long It is reasonable that this short life be lived in light of eternity)
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To: stanne

During 15 month XO tour on a DDG with 60 female enlisted we had one pregnancy a month, for a 25% unplanned turnover.

This isn’t counting the ones who reported onboard on a Monday and were gone by Wednesday due to pregnancy. Just facts as I experienced them.


27 posted on 12/02/2019 6:35:16 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: Morgana

My aunt was a navy wife, and she told me that a lot of female crew would turn up pregnant at the base clinic before their ship was supposed to go out.

They’d get shore duty and then most of them would have abortions. This was back in the eighties.

Not much excuse to get pregnant by accident these days. Either use a condom every time, or the pill, IUD, implant. Condom plus one of the others equals 0.01% chance of getting pregnant each year. You’d think the military would teach risk calculation.

Many young women will enjoy male attention too much when they are scarce. Wanton doesn’t think of consequences.

The other solution of course is chastity, very old school.

This “women need abortion for their careers” has been going on for decades too. Let the babies pay for careers with their lives; let the women who have a lurking conscience tear their hearts out, and let’s call that a compassionate and pro-woman society.


28 posted on 12/02/2019 6:55:16 PM PST by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

All of the women I was deployed with got out after we got back as far as I know. Most of them were mothers of small kids most had husbands.

That’s the officer corps. On a 12 month tour there was one woman who left pregnant it was soon after we’d arrived not sure why that was

But the point I the article is to pressure women to have abortions

A woman who will leave a commitment by quitting - whatever means- is not a pregnancy problem. It’s a character problem.

Pressuring people to have abortions or to go on birth control adds to the sickness of our culture

For every one of those women, there is a man involved in that pregnancy but he gets out of it. What is his responsibility? None?

That’s not logical


29 posted on 12/02/2019 6:57:00 PM PST by stanne
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To: GreyHoundSailor

“...60 female enlisted we had one pregnancy a month, for a 25% unplanned turnover.”

Hmm. Immaculate conceptions? “Or boys will be boys- they’re in no way responsible?”

Blechh


30 posted on 12/02/2019 7:11:05 PM PST by stanne
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To: a fool in paradise

When a female troop gets into the sack with a male troop she is planning a pregnancy. There are no unplanned pregnancies that are not due to rape.


31 posted on 12/02/2019 7:11:51 PM PST by arthurus (cDx..c|__|//][/\-)
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To: Morgana

In Buttplug’s ideal military, all those fags would have no interest in females, so no abortion problems.....


32 posted on 12/02/2019 7:32:21 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading - T Jefferson)
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To: stanne

So, if some guy that works in an office, and makes rapid promotions suddenly shoots himself in the foot when he gets orders for an unaccompanied tour of Afghanistan, that doesn’t arouse any suspicions in your mind?


33 posted on 12/02/2019 8:04:18 PM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: gundog

I didn’t say it didn’t.


34 posted on 12/02/2019 8:09:24 PM PST by stanne
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To: arthurus

“ When a female troop gets into the sack with a male troop she is planning a pregnancy.”

And the guy is not planning on a pregnancy?


35 posted on 12/02/2019 8:11:11 PM PST by stanne
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To: arthurus

And the guy is not planning on a pregnancy?

He doesn’t know where babies come from?


36 posted on 12/02/2019 8:13:10 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

What do you figure is easier...getting knocked up or shooting yourself in the foot? Free medical, either way.


37 posted on 12/02/2019 8:52:12 PM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: gundog

Becoming pregnant involves two people and as ore circumstances. The misogynistic mindset on this thread is very certain that becoming pregnant is solely to get out of deployment and should be remedied with abortion and or birth control. The guy has nothing to do with it

How ignorant


38 posted on 12/03/2019 3:20:38 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

The circumstance that I’m referencing involved a husband complicit in the avoidance of deployment, to the best of my knowledge. . The child was not aborted. And someone else was deployed, I’m certain. Great for morale.


39 posted on 12/03/2019 5:10:17 AM PST by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: stanne

The guy is doing what guys do. He is planning on a few moments pleasure. He won’t get pregnant. Pregnancy is not even in his horizon. The female gets pregnant knows what she is getting into from the outset, This is the real world, not the PC imaginary world.


40 posted on 12/03/2019 5:29:40 AM PST by arthurus (cDx..c|__|//][/\-..)
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