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Social Security vs private retirement (Vanity)
1 December 2019

Posted on 12/01/2019 7:38:38 AM PST by rey

I remember seeing a couple of sites/articles on how if one were to pay the same amount into a private retirement fund or annuity investment how much more one would get in return than they would from social security. Can someone help locate such a site/article? Thanks.


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1 posted on 12/01/2019 7:38:38 AM PST by rey
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Pension vs. Social Security Retirement Plans: What's the Difference?

Note: I have not read the artcile, just a search result.

2 posted on 12/01/2019 7:44:51 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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https://www.google.com/search?q=galveston+plan&rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS359US359&oq=galveston+plan&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.6743j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


3 posted on 12/01/2019 7:45:06 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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Disregard post #3...This is the correct site:

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v62n1/v62n1p47.pdf


4 posted on 12/01/2019 7:46:56 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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https://www.mathportal.org/calculators/financial-calculators/compound-interest-calculator.php?formId=0&val1=4500&val2=7&val3=9&combo1=1&combo2=2


5 posted on 12/01/2019 7:47:45 AM PST by GOPJ (UN-elected bureaucrats steal power and taxpayer dollars - they belong in prison.)
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Kind of a moot point unless one had the ability to not pay SS...we supplemented ours with contributions to funds that our work matched some of..the problem with SS is they keep spending it instead of investing it and letting it accrue interest...it should be the cup that overfloweth....for now anyway.


6 posted on 12/01/2019 7:50:25 AM PST by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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https://www.nerdwallet.com/banking/calculator/compound-interest-calculator

This one’s better...


7 posted on 12/01/2019 7:50:57 AM PST by GOPJ (UN-elected bureaucrats steal power and taxpayer dollars - they belong in prison.)
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To: rey

This may interest you also.

How Three Texas Counties Created Personal Social Security Accounts and Prospered

Article from 2011

https://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatthews/2011/05/12/how-three-texas-counties-created-personal-social-security-accounts-and-prospered/#43e8f51e3283


8 posted on 12/01/2019 7:54:47 AM PST by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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Do both, then do some more!
The cost of living, even in retirement, is far more than most people can imagine.
Then save some more!


9 posted on 12/01/2019 8:03:32 AM PST by reintarnation (not a noob, i just change my identity over the years...)
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Yep...That is what my post #4 alluded to also...

When Bush #2 was president, he had suggested the Galveston Plan, as he referred to it, to replace SS...It got nowhere in Washington...


10 posted on 12/01/2019 8:08:04 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: reintarnation

I’ve done the math and I can’t live past the age of 66 years and 3 months :)


11 posted on 12/01/2019 8:18:17 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: rey

Yes, do both
Work hard, live frugally, save a lot if possible


12 posted on 12/01/2019 8:25:05 AM PST by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about Humanity)
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We invested in a few rentals plus SS. The rentals increase in value along with inflation


13 posted on 12/01/2019 8:25:41 AM PST by tubebender
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To: dp0622

Clint at 86 produced/directed a movie and then another at 88 or so.

The lesson:

Think 90


14 posted on 12/01/2019 8:29:29 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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https://www.learnliberty.org/videos/social-security-vs-private-retirement-accounts/


15 posted on 12/01/2019 8:35:51 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
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Social Security was meant to be a redistribution of income, not a retirement program.

The government takes money from the reserves. If the government were for the people, it would be investing the money in the stock market, but it isn’t.


16 posted on 12/01/2019 8:36:03 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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No article, but Ronald Reagan points out that same fact in his “a time for choosing” speech.


17 posted on 12/01/2019 8:40:36 AM PST by EvilCapitalist (If it takes a bloodbath, let's get it over with. No more appeasement. -Ronald Reagan)
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Then the best thing I can do at 51 is amp up the saving and keep myself healthy so I can work in well into my 70s if necessary.

Clint Eastwood is amazing.


18 posted on 12/01/2019 8:48:05 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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We did both.

There is no way anyone can live comfortably on SS alone, unless scavenging garbage dumpsters with an occasional dog treat is considered good nourishment while living under a bridge somewhere. Or be at the mercy of the govt living on assistance.

Our IRA buys us toys, vacations, good food and medical supplement. The SS and pension pays basic living expenses. I do not regret putting away 15 - 20% of my paycheck for the 401K


19 posted on 12/01/2019 8:52:53 AM PST by redfreedom
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My testimony is you do not need to work 8 hours a day 5 days a week. You can find something that uses your talents that takes say only 20 hours or less a week.

This business of talent is what is important. You don’t need to continue doing what you have been doing. You actually know how to do lots of different things.


20 posted on 12/01/2019 8:53:53 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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