Posted on 09/30/2019 12:31:36 AM PDT by Windflier
More people are leaving the New York region than any other major metropolitan area in the country.
More than 1 million people moved out of the New York area to other parts of the country since 2010, a rate of 4.4 percent — the highest negative net migration rate among the nation’s large population centers, US Census records show.
The number of people leaving the region — which includes parts of New Jersey, Connecticut, the lower Hudson Valley and Long Island — in one year swelled from 187,034 in 2015 to 223,423 in 2016, while the number of international immigrants settling in the tristate area dwindled from 181,551 to 160,324 over the same period, records show.
The nation’s economy is improving, there are more jobs in cheaper places to live, and retirees are choosing to move to warmer climates, experts say.
“The historical trend is that out-migration grows when the economy is getting better,” said Empire Center for Public Policy research director E.J. McMahon.
“As the economy gets better, there are more jobs outside the region and by the same token . . . more people to buy your house if you’re a baby boomer looking to move to Boca Raton or Myrtle Beach.”
The New York metro area remains the most populous in the country with 23.7 million residents.
Americans have been increasingly relocating from the eastern US and the Rust Belt to cities in Florida, Texas and the Northwest.
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Electoral Votes by Presidential Election...
| State.............. | 1948 EVs | 2012 EVs | % change |
|---|---|---|---|
| New York | 48 | 29 | 39.5% down |
| Florida | 9 | 29 | 222% up |
| Texas | 23 | 38 | 65% up |
| California | 22 | 55 | 150% up |
| ......... | ..... | ..... | |
| total EVs | 531 | 538 | 1.3% up |
| ......... | ..... | ..... | |
| CA/TX/FL | 54 | 122 | 126% up |
| IL/MI/OH/PA/NY | 158 | 103 | 34.8% down |
New York used to be about as big as TX, FL, and CA combined (48 to 54), and NY had 9% of the EVs. Now NY has 5%.
TX/FL/CA had 10% of the EVs, and now combine for 23%.
The rest of the nation has lost 13% of their influence in elections to those Big Three.
The Rust Belt (IL, MI, OH, PA) used to combine for 110 EVs (29, 19, 26, 36), and now only control 74 EVs (20, 16, 18, 20)
And this shift is almost entirely in our lifetimes (or our parents', depending on one's age)
maybe they are not actually moving. Maybe they are dying................
I dispute this. Most of them are Leftists. We’ve seen it in Miami for many years and Occupied Northern Virginia has now flipped that state and they’re trying to turn North Carolina, Georgia and Texas purple.
It sure as hell ain’t like native Southerners have started voting for Leftist Democrats.
I will be moving BEFORE I retire from the NYPD. A lot of guys move their family before they can retire and then join them afterwards. Makes a lot of sense. I hate NYC, and I used to love it.
We’re scouting for a retirement house in little villages around the Gettysburg area.
How true. I’m in Putnam and I can’t believe the amount of For Sale signs I see in my travels around the county.
Just Cancer Cells breaking away from the Tumor so they can infect the rest of America.
I am in Dutchess County. The housing market remains hot in the $250k to $500k range, but not so much above that. When we brought our house in 1994, the total property tax was about $4,000 on a 3000 sf colonial. This year we will top out at $14,000, of which $8,000 goes to the school district and $4,000 to the fire district and the balance to the town/county. Our kids never attended the public schools and yet we continue to pay long after they moved to other states. And to the fire commissioners, “fiscal restraint” is a foreign concept.
My wife is retiring on December 31, 2020, and I am in the process of winding down my businesses. The goal is to sell the house in 2020, and move to Arizona and/or Colorado where our children, grandchildren, and grand-dogs live.
I guess Cuomo wasn’t kidding when he said he doesn’t want our types here. Best of luck to you on your retirement and move.I have family in Arizona, beautiful place, and Colorado I hear is nice but stay away from Denver.
Too damned many of them are moving to conservative areas and taking their unfortunate voting habits with them. They foul their new nest as they fouled the old one.
Check out Susquehanna County, south of Binghamton right over the state line.
For those stuck behind communist lines - I feel for them.
My younger brother had to go there for work after he left the Marines (job was available immediately and he several kids to feed). He hates it and can't wait to come back south.
Semper.
Yeah, that would be the area 30 miles east of me.
I stay out here in the sticks where my kin have been since the 17th century.
:)
To me there are no "good old days" in NYC.
I’ll take my chances. You know what I wish for? I wish that people will be able to keep the homes that they paid for. The point is that, every year, thousands of people in Pa. are losing their homes. It is not fair that property owners - many of whom are senior citizens on fixed incomes - should bear the burden of paying for schools. A slightly higher sales tax and Pa. Income Tax (PIT) would mean that everybody shares the burden. A person’s home should be HANDS OFF!
I agree with you in principal.
If property taxes in PA were not so onerous and were affordable so that folks on a fixed income could afford them, we might not be having this conversation. The problem is that when mom and dad bought the house, property taxes were $500; 35 years later they are $4000 and mom and dad are living on SS plus a little savings. Some would argue the increase is due to inflation. I would argue that government has an insatiable appetite for more money and more government and that it the problem we have been unable to remedy. E.g., PA's sales tax in 1954 was 1%. Today, it's 6% and I believe in Philly it's 7%.
As mentioned earlier, one of my fears would be that increases in taxes like sales and income, meant to replace property taxes, would themselves be raised over time to burdensome levels. The inherent problem is that government generally does not control spending. This is the tough nut to crack.
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