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Warp Drive Is Theoretically Possible
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Posted on 09/27/2019 10:52:10 AM PDT by Red Badger

Warp drive is one of the many futuristic ideas proposed in Star Trek, allowing for faster-than-light travel across the galaxy. Einstein's Theory of Relativity prevents anything from moving faster than light.

In 1994, a theoretical physicist proposed a workaround: creating a bubble within space-time that would twist distances, allowing anything within the bubble to travel long distances. Many think it makes theoretical sense, but is practically unworkable.

An undergrad at the University of Alabama wants to restart the conversation, and he's focused on how much energy such a bubble would need.

Star Trek's science fiction has been intermingled with real-life science for decades. The franchise has inspired technologies that people use and study every day, and now a mechanical engineering student at the University of Alabama in Huntsville wants to bring forth another one: warp drive.

Warp drive is fundamental to the world of Star Trek, as it's the crucial component to superluminal starships. Without these super-fast ships that run on warp drive, we can't become a space-faring species. Thus, warp drive is tremendously important to humanity's evolution.

But Einstein's Theory of Relativity kind of throws a wrench into the whole thing, since nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

"As objects travel faster and faster, they get heavier and heavier—the heavier they get, the harder it is to achieve acceleration, so you never get to the speed of light," Roger Rassool, a physicist at the University of Melbourne, Australia, once told the BBC. Only things with no mass, like photons, can travel at those tremendous speeds. That certainly rules out massive ships like the Enterprise.

In 1994, the theoretical physicist Miguel Alcubierre developed a theoretical workaround, which has come to be known as the Alcubierre drive. "By a purely local expansion of spacetime behind the spaceship and an opposite contraction in front of it," Alcubierre wrote in his paper's abstract, "motion faster than the speed of light as seen by observers outside the disturbed region is possible."

Essentially, an Alcubierre drive would expend a tremendous amount of energy to contract and twist space-time in front of it and create a bubble. Inside that bubble would be a inertial reference frame where explorers would feel no proper acceleration. The rules of physics would still apply within the bubble, but the ship would be localized outside of space.

The engineering student, Joseph Agnew, wants to explore the idea. "Mathematically, if you fulfill all the energy requirements, they can’t prove that it doesn’t work," he recently said at a standing-room only talk on the subject.

"Suppose you have a craft that’s in the bubble," he continues, quoted in a university press release on the talk. "What you would do is, you’d compress space-time ahead of the craft and expand space-time behind it."

The energy required to create an Alcubierre bubble would be immense. Some scientists believe it would require more energy than available within the universe, although others maintain the energy levels would be physically attainable. Agnew believes it can go down further.

"People used to say, ‘You’re dealing in something that would be great, but it takes the mass of the entire universe to do it,’" Agnew said. "Now, we’re down to where it is still an immense amount of energy and exotic matter is still a problem, but if we had that energy, we could do it."

After five to eight years of theoretical work, Agnew said, "it’s been reduced by many, many orders of magnitude."

To remove the fictional element of the bubbles, Agnew would want to start small. "Some people have approached it on a spacecraft-size scale, like what will it take to do this at that really large range, and some have approached it from a ‘Can we create this effect in a lab and then scale it up?’ perspective," he said. Even the smallest bubble would be a tremendous scientific breakthrough.

Of course, there's more to travel than just being able to generate enough energy to create a road. There's also the not-insignificant matter of surviving the trip.

"On one side, an observer located at the center of a superluminal warp-drive bubble would generically experience a thermal flux of Hawking particles," reads the abstract to a study from 2009 that discusses theorized Hawking radiation, a theoretical type of radiation released by black holes.

"On the other side, such Hawking flux will be generically extremely high if the exotic matter supporting the warp drive has its origin in a quantum field satisfying some form of Quantum Inequalities." The Hawking radiation would theoretically kill anyone who attempted to enter such a bubble.

So there's a long road ahead. But that's not deterring Agnew. He's curious about exploring the field further, on one condition: funding.

"The interest in doing something in this field is going to be there if someone has the money," he said. "This is just one of several areas I am interested in. If the opportunity is there to do it, I’ll pursue it."


TOPICS: Astronomy; Education; History; Science
KEYWORDS: faultypremise; scifi; startrek; stringtheory; warpdrive
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To: Red Badger

As soon as I see that the author does not use the term “Theory” and its derivatives properly the author loses all credibility in my eyes. This author may pose a hypothesis but certainly not a theory. In the science community this is a big bad, analogous to how the firearms community looks upon those who don’t know the difference between a “magazine” and a “clip.”
Theory, hypothesis, and law are all different terms with different uses and meanings easy enough to look up on the internet.


41 posted on 09/27/2019 12:08:22 PM PDT by Rudolphus (Tagline? I don't need no steenkin' tagline.)
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To: Mr. K
But you can warp the space between two places...

What happens to any object that happens to be located between those two places, in the warp corridor (or whatever name they give the path)?

42 posted on 09/27/2019 12:15:26 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Mr. K
But you can warp the space between two places...

What happens to any object that happens to be located between those two places, in the warp corridor (or whatever name they give the path)?

43 posted on 09/27/2019 12:16:04 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Red Badger
Isn't that the speed at which classified information leaks out of Adam Schiff?


44 posted on 09/27/2019 12:19:14 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (Hillary Clinton: Just like Joe with only half the dementia.)
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To: Red Badger
I once did the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs....


45 posted on 09/27/2019 12:20:28 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Red Badger
Einstein's Theory of Relativity prevents anything from moving faster than light.

This is from a "science writer"? Does Einstein's Theory of Relativity cause global warming? What a moron.

46 posted on 09/27/2019 12:24:58 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the video")
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To: Red Badger

Something to think about.

The Alcubierre Drive is being promoted by a project called “100 Year Starship”. Their goal is to achieve an interstellar mission within 100 years from their founding in 2010.

A faster than light interstellar starship will not be powered by solar, wind, biomass, or batteries.

At a minimum, nuclear fusion is required. More realistically, antimatter power is required.

If we can build an Alcubierre Drive powered starship in 100 years, it means we will have solved all of the world’s energy problems well before then.

Robert Goddard launched his first liquid fueled rocket using gasoline and liquid oxygen in 1926. It would be another 31 years before launch of Sputnik 1.

The petroleum fuel industry dates to the mid-1800s, roughy 75 years before Goddard fueled his rocket with petroleum distillates.

Realistically, an Alcubierre Drive powered starship is more than 100 years away, but equally realistically, energy from nuclear fusion is closer than 50 years away. And cheaper, safer, advanced fission is less than 20 years away.

Where do you want humanity to be 200, 100, 50, or 20 years from now?

I just don’t know how going backward to windmills and burning wood (biomass) gets us to the future.


47 posted on 09/27/2019 12:27:01 PM PDT by magellan
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To: Army Air Corps; JimRed; Red Badger
Unless your new phasers are channeled through your warp drive, so you need to clear the road with a photon torpedo. Or did you skip that part of the briefing?


48 posted on 09/27/2019 12:32:02 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Lol!


49 posted on 09/27/2019 12:34:46 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: JimRed

Actually, if I remember my star trek 101 class correctly, warp factor 5 is light speed raised to the 5th, not 5 times light speed. Roddenberry was actually pretty close to estimating what speeds would be necessary to make interstellar space travel possible in a human beings life time.


50 posted on 09/27/2019 12:35:43 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Red Badger

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breakthrough_Propulsion_Physics_Program


51 posted on 09/27/2019 12:35:56 PM PDT by Reily
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To: BlueStateRightist

I thought it was ‘raised to the power of’. Isnt that why it was called warp factor 5?


52 posted on 09/27/2019 12:38:19 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Red Badger

How do you avoid asteroids, and other projectiles floating around space. Would you just pass thru? makes no sense.


53 posted on 09/27/2019 12:38:49 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: nikos1121

I think its just “drive fast, take chances”. LOL


54 posted on 09/27/2019 12:39:48 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Energy is matter. This means particles of matter will be forming at the quantum level all the time. This bullshit is ridiculous as we currently understand physics and how to manipulate our universe with our technologies.


55 posted on 09/27/2019 12:44:42 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: Magnum44

But how long did it take?


56 posted on 09/27/2019 12:46:57 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: Red Badger

Everybody knows that the fastest thing in the universe is a bill the exact moment you’re flat broke.


57 posted on 09/27/2019 12:48:23 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (In a mandatory evacuation zone. I'm not.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

I don’t recall, I put it on autopilot and watched a season of “Married with Children” on the big screen cable. Why do you think that dish is on top? :)


58 posted on 09/27/2019 12:49:51 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Magnum44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5q7Ag6j-ok


59 posted on 09/27/2019 12:50:32 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (In a mandatory evacuation zone. I'm not.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

60 posted on 09/27/2019 12:52:29 PM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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