The Ketogenic Diet and Diabetes

ruled.me ^ | Oct 12th, 2018 | Craig Clarke

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The ketogenic diet was originally developed almost 100 years ago to treat epilepsy. Nowadays, it is used as a nutrition plan by health-conscious men and women to optimize body composition and athletic performance.

Recent research suggests that high fat, very-low carb diets have another benefit: They may help control glucose, triglycerides, insulin, and body weight in people with diabetes. The research below shows the ketogenic diet may be an effective tool you can use to manage symptoms of Diabetes, alongside exercise and medication.

[Ellendra]

Anyway, I go strictly keto for 3-4 months out of the year to drop weight and moderate carbs the rest of the year.

Keto for 3-4 months is probably closer to a natural, seasonal diet. Even after the spread of agriculture.

In the summer, people would've eaten lots of berries, greens, eggs, and dairy. In the fall it would've been "harvest foods", i.e. grains, squash, nuts, etc. In the winter it would be long-storing foods like most root vegetables, more grains, apples, fermented foods, cheese, meat, etc.

But in the springtime, there's a period called the "hunger gap". Its when the storage foods are running out, the weather is too warm to keep meats frozen for storage, but its too early for the crops to replace it. During this time, people would've been eating whatever greens they could find, and game meats like rabbit. If they were lucky enough to have livestock, there would be eggs as the chickens started laying again, and milk as their dairy animals freshened. Pretty close to the keto diet, if you ask me.

[MissEdie]

From personal experience I can tell you this: I did loose about 20 lbs in 2 months but I started having episodes similar to sugar crashes. My overall cholesterol stayed the same from the previous year, however my bad cholesterol went up from 35 to 50. My liver started showing signs of fatty liver disease my doctor attributed to my body digesting the amount of fat in my diet. I wasn't doing the full keto diet, I did what is dubbed “dirty keto” because I like fresh fruit and certain veggies considered “no-no” on this diet.
My husband's experience was a bit different- he did a strict Keto diet for 3 months. At the end, his overall cholesterol level doubled from the previous year (152 to 314) and his bad LDL level more than quadrupled (from 35 to 145). He tried to argue with his doctor that according to Ken Berry, the recent Keto guru, those numbers were not important. She looked him in the eye and said “Fine, don't listen to me, but I can guarantee you if you do not get off this diet like you are currently on you will be dead in under 3 years.”
If you want to participate in this diet, just do your own research and talk to your doctor first.

[aquila48]

“I could have sworn there was an article here in the past few days that talked about how bad the Keto plan was for one’s health.”

There are hundreds of different diets claiming to be the best, most of them contradict each other. Everything in moderation is my diet.

[aquila48]

“Oh America: where masculinity, literacy, morals, and genuine occupations of the soul are in short supply... but we are so spoiled we can pick our diets, pick our genders...”

The disease is called AFFLUENZA. The good news it contains it’s own cure. The bad news is that it takes a while to kick in and it won’t be pretty.

[ican'tbelieveit]

https://cholesterolcode.com/

[Jewbacca]

675 for three this am

[dfwgator]

Someone on full keto should increase their salt. I’ve found after long sweaty exercise I need to increase salt or I lose energy

Pickles are your friend, after I workout I have a few pickles or some pickle juice.

[353FMG]

Diabetes is about the most diabolic disease I can think of. It’s time that a vaccination be developed.

[353FMG]

Diabetes is about the most diabolic disease I can think of. It’s time that a vaccination be developed.

[aquila48]

“Call it Keto, call it Atkins, call it Caveman, doesn’t matter what you call it. It works for me.”

That’s the bottom line. Find what works for you. I’m just the opposite. I’m Italian - pasta and bread are my staples as well as fruit, vegetables and occasional meat, some exercise and that works for me. My parents lived into their 90s.

[aquila48]

“I concluded this while in line at a Blaze Pizza which offers a Keto crust...and...i dunno all these perfectly healthy young people requesting it like it were some new flashy item at a store...”

Must mean the gluten fad has run its course, so they needed something new to keep sales up.

[RinaseaofDs]

I was 325 and on the way to Metformin. Started keto about 18 months ago. Very little exercise.

230 and an A1C below 6.

Now they are looking at it for cancer. Turns out cancer thrives on glucose. Who knew.

Now that I’m exercising, the idea is to slowly get to 200/190 or so. Exercising just allows you to eat more fat, which is fun.

The whole process over 18 months is to find zero/low carb equivalents for lifestyle foods that make living more enjoyable.

Pasta is now officially back. So is Pizza. Ice cream and chocolate has been back for almost a year. Most of pie is back. I need to find a zero/low carb crust. Blueberry pie can be very low carb if you can replace the crust. Cheesecake and Chocolate cake were relatively easy to replace.

I just consider carbs to be poisonous, which for all intents and purposes (soluble carbs) are.

Getting going was very tough. So much easier now - getting started and staying on it.

[djf]

You are absolutely correct.
Sugar, in the wild, is pretty uncommon, except for the fruiting season.

[bgill]

Eating right is staying away from overly processed junk food with tons of sugar. That’s basically sticking to a low carb diet.

[Richard Kimball]

As a Meatasaurous, the biggest issue for me is going out to eat. Because pasta and potatoes are cheap, many restaurants will give you 8 servings of pasta (a serving is supposed to be a cup or less.) Fast food restaurants often have no good options, and in sit down places, you often have to go to steak and veggies or something grilled.

I keep it simple. No sugar, potatoes, pasta or bread. No deep fried. Lots of meat and vegetables. Only problem with cutting out bread is not having something to hold the sandwich together. Other than that, I don't miss it.

After a few days off sugar, I started feeling better. Alert, but not jumpy. Had a cupcake at a birthday party a week ago, and it was crazy how sweet it was. We've gotten so used to sugar in our diets that, like caffeine, we forget how strongly it affects us.

[ican'tbelieveit]

Did you try this one:

https://www.ketoconnect.net/keto-pie-crust

[ican'tbelieveit]

Have you tried the new chaffle wave? For the bread replacement?

And there are a few quick and easy mug bread recipes. ~ 3 minutes and a bit of bread for a sandwich.

[bgill]

You could have ranch dressing on the salad as it only has 2 carbs. The other salad dressings have too many.

[RinaseaofDs]

Bingo. No more afternoon crashes. Funny you bringing that up. I feel so much better. I sleep better too.

I fry stuff in either bacon grease or butter. Thinslim foods has pasta, bagels, and pizza crusts that are on par with what you can get in full carb equivalents. Taste, texture, everything.

I did their sampler, and some of it was inedible. Their snacks, mostly were foul.

The pizza crust? Game changer. You can make the most decadent all meat pizzas and it will not raise your BCG at all. Zero carbs.

Toasted bagel with cream cheese beside my elbow as I type this.

I made a buffalo chicken dip that had zero carbs this weekend for NFL viewing. (Franks buffalo sauce, ranch dressing, cream cheese, chicken, blue cheese or parm crumbles). You can eat the whole pan and you BCG remains stable.

Go over 30 percent protein and you start getting into ketogenesis - protein converting to glucose. It really isn’t that big an issue, but between cream cheese, sugar free jams, and nut butters, you can do positively eeeevil things to a bagel and it is awesome.

[bgill]

Made from scratch at home is the best and the cheapest.