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Siege at Ruby Ridge: The Forgotten History of the ATF Shootout That Started a Militia Movement
Ammo.com ^ | August 21, 2019 | Ammo.com

Posted on 08/21/2019 4:31:33 PM PDT by ammodotcom

The shootout between Randy Weaver and his family and federal agents on August 21, 1992 is often considered a pivotal date in American history.

The short version is this: Randy Weaver and his wife Vicki moved with their four kids to the Idaho Panhandle, near the Canadian border, to escape what they thought was an increasingly corrupt world. The Weavers held racial separatist beliefs, but were not involved in any violent activity or rhetoric. They were peaceful Christians who simply wanted to be left alone.

Specifically for his beliefs, Randy Weaver was targeted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) in an entrapping “sting” operation designed to gain his cooperation as a snitch. When he refused to become a federal informant, he was charged with illegally selling firearms. Due to a miscommunication about his court date, the Marshal Service was brought in, who laid siege to his house and shot and killed his wife, 14-year-old son, and dog.

The incident for many Americans is a chilling reminder of the predatory and aggressive nature of federal law enforcement.

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TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Society
KEYWORDS: atf; blogpimp; constitution; fbi; fedmob; johnjoegray; randyweaver; rubyridge
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Both Ruby Ridge, and Waco a year later, stand as shocking moments in modern U.S. history that should alarm all Americans. On the anniversary of Ruby Ridge we wanted to share our article that takes a look at the incident.

Learn more about the siege and about the story of John Joe Gray, an example of what Ruby Ridge could have been, instead of the tragedy it was. Read the full article at Ammo.com: https://ammo.com/articles/ruby-ridge-siege-forgotten-history-weaver-family-atf-standoff-militia

1 posted on 08/21/2019 4:31:33 PM PDT by ammodotcom
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To: ammodotcom
August 12 1992: President, GHW Bush, Republican.
2 posted on 08/21/2019 4:33:00 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (Power is more often surrendered than seized.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Attorney General William Barr


3 posted on 08/21/2019 4:42:08 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: hinckley buzzard

GHW Bush. Lackey to the International Banks.


4 posted on 08/21/2019 4:53:03 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Yes, and the planning for the Waco raid began almost a year before Clinton became president. IOWs on GHWB’s watch.


5 posted on 08/21/2019 4:56:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: ammodotcom

I can’t stand to even read the details of Ruby Ridge any more.

Pure evil by all the way up to the president.


6 posted on 08/21/2019 5:02:51 PM PDT by yarddog
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I think most Freepers support law enforcement as we should but we should also not forget they, like a military army, take orders and follow a chain of command.

Law enforcement can be friend or foe when it hits the fan. We won’t know till it happens.

Then there are those who are like in the Waco, Ruby, and the Weaver’s attacks.

The ATF has a terrible reputation for being more like criminals than law enforcement. Why; I don’t know. Maybe a cultural thing in that department of the government.


7 posted on 08/21/2019 5:06:09 PM PDT by Boomer (Our melting pot has turned into a pressure cooker)
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To: ammodotcom

Ruby Ridge, where it all started to go bad for the FBI.
‘93 WTC attack
Waco
911 investigation
Oregon 7

It almost seems like they go out of their way to block anything that has to do with Muslims or the Middle East.


8 posted on 08/21/2019 5:07:00 PM PDT by Zathras
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I didn’t forget. FBI shoots the wife, Vicky Weaver, in the FACE when she opens the door to see what the hell is going on outside of her house. Holding a baby? Yes. Weaver was FRAMED by the FBI because people he knew where so-called white supremacists. He wasn’t, but because he knew them the FBI targeted HIM for infiltration. Because he refused to participate they framed him so that they could BLACKMAIL him. These are the FACTS that are to this day UNKNOWN by the vast majority of Americans. Number of FBI agents charged? Zero. True.


9 posted on 08/21/2019 5:09:08 PM PDT by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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What’s Horiuchi doing these days?


10 posted on 08/21/2019 5:13:34 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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If McVeigh is representative of the militia movement, it’s populated by morons. The Oklahoma bombing killed children. The members of paramilitary movements on both sides during the struggle between the Nazis and the Communists carried out a lot of assassinations. One thing they did not do was kill random people. Each had agents and sympathizers within the security services, and a mass killing would have defeated their purpose.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lon_Horiuchi
[For the five months following the Waco inferno, Timothy McVeigh worked at gun shows and handed out free cards printed with Horiuchi’s name and address, “in the hope that somebody in the Patriot movement would assassinate the sharpshooter”. He wrote hate mail to the sniper, suggesting that “what goes around, comes around”. McVeigh considered targeting Horiuchi, or a member of his family, before settling on a bombing attack on a federal building, choosing to target the Murrah Building.[12]]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roter_Frontk%C3%A4mpferbund
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion


11 posted on 08/21/2019 5:14:23 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Along with two friends, I spent 3 hours face to face with Randy as he told us his story...

There was no miscommunication regarding court dates...Randy was set up, again and again, after refusing to do the Feds’ bidding and infiltrate a “White nationalist/racist group”...His big mistake was cutting down two shotguns 1/4” too short (Randy made extra money doing occasional gunsmithing) for a Fed informant...Once he’d done that and the informant tattled, as was his assignment, Randy was theirs...

No distinction was made between Randy’s belief the races should live separately (he was a white separatist, but was not racially prejudiced against anyone
) and his accused “racism”...To the Feds, what’s the difference? All same/same apparently; especially when convenient to entrapment...Plus, once the Federal Bureau of Incineration realized negative public opinion had become a problem, a charge of “racism” gave cover...”Oh, he and his family are racists? Shoot um!”

His pre-teen son was shot and almost lost his arm, their dog was killed (de rigueur for LEOs then as now, it seems), his nursing wife, holding their baby girl, was shot with a 7.62 mm 168 gr HPBT round in the face fired by FBI Agent Lon Horiuchi...

Sadly, none of this needed to happen...Randy was a peaceful man, no danger to anyone and wanted only to be left alone to live according to his religious beliefs...Federal LEOs running amok...

Kinda rings a bell with the shenanigans of Comey and Co. these days, eh? Nothing much has changed but the weapons they use...Out of control, then as now...


12 posted on 08/21/2019 5:18:02 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: Zhang Fei

I don’t think there was any connection between McVeigh and any militia groups. He attended a meeting of one and was asked to leave.


13 posted on 08/21/2019 5:23:45 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: ammodotcom

The ATF was pretty much a rogue agency back then.


14 posted on 08/21/2019 5:26:07 PM PDT by Justa
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To: elteemike

Absolutely Amazing!
Thanks for sharing.


15 posted on 08/21/2019 5:29:16 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: ammodotcom

You can’t even get the basic facts straight. So go pimp your stupid blog someplace else.

L


16 posted on 08/21/2019 5:29:27 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Ruby Ridge was a colossal screw-up by the FBI.


17 posted on 08/21/2019 5:36:15 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Zathras
"It almost seems like they go out of their way to block anything that has to do with Muslims or the Middle East."

Henry Fords first prototype vehicle was mostly made out of and ran off of hemp. Of course the sand nazis would never have gotten rich off of our being self reliant on agriculture.

The masons don't use the scimitar, star, and crescent because they think they look cool!

18 posted on 08/21/2019 5:42:34 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

Actually the local prosecutor did try to file charges against Horuchi, but the FBI has deep taxpayer pockets/lawyers, and the costs to Boundary County would have bankrupt the county, so they were dropped. I have property below Ruby Ridge near snow creek. The FIB are always looking to plug someone in these situations...just look at their track record.


19 posted on 08/21/2019 5:51:55 PM PDT by davidb56
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To: ammodotcom

They were upset taht they didn’t get to murder a few more people.


20 posted on 08/21/2019 6:03:44 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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