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Trump says he is seriously looking at ending birthright citizenship
Reuters ^ | 08-21-19 | Jeff Mason

Posted on 08/21/2019 10:23:03 AM PDT by Monrose72

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Wednesday that his administration was seriously looking at ending the right of citizenship for U.S.-born children of noncitizens and people who immigrated to the United States illegally. “We’re looking at that very seriously, birthright citizenship, where you have a baby on our land, you walk over the border, have a baby - congratulations, the baby is now a U.S. citizen. ... It’s frankly ridiculous,” Trump told reporters outside the White House. Trump has made cracking down on immigration a central plank of his presidency and re-election campaign, but many of the administration’s sweeping rule changes and executive orders have been stymied by the courts.

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To: RummyChick
"It appears he thinks he can do it by Executive Order"

It does. He's wrong.

21 posted on 08/21/2019 10:36:50 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Monrose72
This is why I voted for President Trump and will do it again. Everything President Trump has been doing on illegal immigration the weak sucks of the GOPe could have done long before now. The GOPe was all talk while they shouted out lies while taking bribes from the Kochs and other exploiters of cheap labor. I hope that Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, John Boehner, and their co-conspirators rot in hell.
22 posted on 08/21/2019 10:36:50 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Freeper formerly known as WMarshal.......)
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To: Conserv

And John Roberts, but that might be redundant.


23 posted on 08/21/2019 10:37:14 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: mlo

It is “assumed” law, not “settled” law.


24 posted on 08/21/2019 10:37:31 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Lurkinanloomin

But Mr. Trump’s plan met with swift pushback from some even in his own party on Tuesday. House Speaker Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, who is retiring, said in an interview that the president “obviously” cannot eviscerate birthright citizenship by executive order.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/us/politics/trump-birthright-citizenship.html


25 posted on 08/21/2019 10:38:19 AM PDT by RummyChick ("Pills, money .. this city is wicked. Your best friend will kill you here." Smoove about Baltimore)
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To: Monrose72

DO IT!!!!!!


26 posted on 08/21/2019 10:38:20 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: RummyChick

It appears he thinks he can do it by Executive Order

***************

Yea that’s not gonna cut it. Was hoping he was looking into how to do it correctly (i.e. amendment)


27 posted on 08/21/2019 10:38:51 AM PDT by walkingdead (By the time you realize this is not worth reading, it will be too late....)
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To: 1Old Pro

Read the XIV amendment to the Constitution. To end birth right citizenship, you must alter the wording of this amendment. That means a formal amendment to change or override the XIV Amendment to the Constitution.


28 posted on 08/21/2019 10:40:18 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe
“Wish him all the luck. But an amendment to the Constitution is the only way around birth right citizen.”

Not true. If you look at the 14th Amendment closely it does not grant birthright citizenship and its authors clearly stated so in congressional debat that is on the record and the Supreme Court has and must continue to give weight to those statements.

If President Trump changes policy and is sued over it there is a chance that the Supreme Court could decide in his favor.

29 posted on 08/21/2019 10:41:44 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Freeper formerly known as WMarshal.......)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
"It is “assumed” law, not “settled” law."

No it is settled. It's the plain language of the text. Do you also think a president can redefine the 2nd amendment through an executive order?

30 posted on 08/21/2019 10:42:04 AM PDT by mlo
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To: Bull Snipe

Perhaps there is a way with SCOTUS.

But he would need another Judge. Roberts is a traitor


31 posted on 08/21/2019 10:42:16 AM PDT by RummyChick ("Pills, money .. this city is wicked. Your best friend will kill you here." Smoove about Baltimore)
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To: RummyChick
My guess is that it would take a major effort and require changing the 14th amendment.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

That's a bit of a sticky wicket.

32 posted on 08/21/2019 10:42:34 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Elitist Liberals have no idea the hunger and strength of the beast they have uncaged.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

I think that is what he is going for...get it before SCOTUS.


33 posted on 08/21/2019 10:43:04 AM PDT by RummyChick ("Pills, money .. this city is wicked. Your best friend will kill you here." Smoove about Baltimore)
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To: mlo

“He has no power to change this, other than asking Congress to propose a constitutional amendment.”

Look at you roll over, how cute.


34 posted on 08/21/2019 10:43:25 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Freeper formerly known as WMarshal.......)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Nope. SCOTUS could do it.

They were the ones that granted it.


35 posted on 08/21/2019 10:43:51 AM PDT by RummyChick ("Pills, money .. this city is wicked. Your best friend will kill you here." Smoove about Baltimore)
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To: wildcard_redneck

There are lots more still in office.

Alexander, Graham, McSally, Murkowsky, Hoeven, Rubio, Tillis, Burr, Lankford, Gardner, Cornyn, Hyde-Smith, Collins, Sasse, Kennedy, Shelby, Ernst, Blunt, McConnell, Wicker, Portman, Isakson, Johnson, Toomey, Rounds, Thune, Gaines, Barasso and Enzi are all Bush League Republicans.


36 posted on 08/21/2019 10:44:42 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Re:32 - Agreed that the plain reading of the 14th Amendment seems “plain”.


37 posted on 08/21/2019 10:46:17 AM PDT by Fury
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To: RummyChick

F I N A L L Y!


38 posted on 08/21/2019 10:46:25 AM PDT by uranium penguin
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To: Bull Snipe
Nope.

Just overturn the dicta on one Supreme Court ruling.

There is nothing in the Constitution that says anybody born here is a automatic citizen.

Just as there is nothing about a "wall between church and state" and a bunch of other things they love to add in.

39 posted on 08/21/2019 10:46:32 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Human beings don't behave rationally. We rationalize our behavior.)
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To: Bull Snipe
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside

Illegals don't "reside" anywhere except their home countries.

40 posted on 08/21/2019 10:47:18 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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