Posted on 08/17/2019 8:46:09 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
Teslas Model 3 is cheaper on a total cost of ownership basis than competing luxury sedans from BMW and Mercedes, but a Toyota Camry? Model 3 is a state-of-the-art electric vehicle with a 5-star safety rating and a driving experience thats gotten rave reviews from every auto mag under the sun. Is it possible that its even in the same price class as the entry-level, reliable-but-dull Camry?
the figures for an Audi A5, and the result is
embarrassing? Game-changing? Adjectives fail us. The cost per mile of the German sedan over 5 years comes out to $0.80, a little less than double that of Model 3.
(Excerpt) Read more at cleantechnica.com ...
Says Little Bill! 57 sec video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fImf1GjE89Q
What do you expect from a pro-electric website?
So sunk cost doesn’t matter???
Econ 101
Yeah, all of these green electric car enthusiasts want to elect democrats who will then kill the industries Trump has promoted which has brought the cost of electricity.
Elect democrats and they will kill off any economy to be found. They forget the Kenyan fascist who bragged to us all that our electric rates will skyrocket.
And is that before the tax credits (subsidy) for purchasing an electric vehicle?
For how long. Depreciation will be a mountain when Tesla goes tits up. Tesla quality is atrocious. They just had a deal fall through with a rental company.
I’ll keep my 2007 Saturn Vue.
“What do you expect from a pro-electric website?”
So you don’t have a problem with their facts?
“So sunk cost doesnt matter???”
What suck cost?
And Tesla owners aren’t burdened with paying any gas taxes to maintain roads.
Now add in the real-life expenses of the cost of the typical tesla 3 vs cost of the typical camry.
That battery replacement may not figure into the first few years of ownership and operation which is the period the article covers. But it will invariably figure into the resale value, which does not seem to have been factored into the resale value figure cited in the article.
“They just had a deal fall through with a rental company.”
The rest of the story from their CEO:
says Moeller. Although we consider the Model 3 to be the best electric car in the world today, ...nextmove says that it continued to try buying Model 3s from Tesla through online orders
The maintenance cost they assume for the camry over 5 years is outrageously high. It’s not 4 grand over 5 years.
Article pulls a few rabbits out of their butts.. Thats if you sell your car after 5 years. take away the resale value and the teslsa does not beat a camry. Are 5 year old tesla 3’s worth 19 grand? what about the battery? is it still good after 5 years?
“And Tesla owners arent burdened with paying any gas taxes to maintain roads.”
So they’re freeloaders like bicyclists who use the infrastructure that gas tax pays for. Right?
“But it will invariably figure into the resale value, which does not seem to have been factored into the resale value figure cited in the article. “
You have data to support your post?
They also do not mention the cost of buying and installing a home charging station, which could easily cost more than $2,000.
The first Model 3s to roll off a production line occurred in July 2017. Thus, any estimate of 5 year repair costs are based upon limited data.
As another FReeper pointed out, there are no guarantees that electricity prices will continue to be what they are now - particularly when demand goes up.
As an aside, I find it interesting that the ‘green’ crowd are against using air conditioners - as they use too much energy (electricity), but are advocating for everyone’s car to be electric. Estimates are that a single charge of an electric car is equivalent to running an air conditioner for 6 hours.
Finally, there's the big question of what is the carbon footprint of producing the electricity for electric cars, and obtaining the raw materials for the batteries, etc., and how does this compare to the decreases in carbon production by switching to electric cars? (I know there are estimates out there, but it seems that they vary and that there are always variables that are ignored).
Their figures are doctored to make the model 3 look better.
A Camry more expensive to insure than a Tesla? Yeah right.
Resale that high on a Tesla & that low on a Camry? No way.
Maintenance $4000 on a Camry? Ive got a half million miles over three camrys and the only unscheduled maintenance Ive ever had was replacing a $50 battery. Oil changes are $30 every 10k miles, tires wear out on both cars. That $4000 figure is not even remotely realistic.
A classic case of fudged numbers, the writer has a future as a democratic vote counter.
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