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New model of the Milky Way shows our galaxy is warped
NY Post ^ | August 5, 2019 | Mike Wehner, BGR

Posted on 08/05/2019 4:01:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The Milky Way is a spiral galaxy with curved arms stretching out into space. Most depictions of our galaxy show it as being rather flat, but data from the Optical Gravitational Lensing Experiment at the university suggests the opposite.

The team, who describe our galaxy as being less a flat disc and more a “wobbly, uncooked pizza crust,” mapped the position of a specific type of star called Cepheids. Cepheids are pulsating stars and it’s easy for researchers to measure the distance between them and Earth. Using data from 2,431 Cepheids, the team was able to create its incredibly detailed map of the Milky Way.

Along with providing the most accurate look at the shape of our galaxy to date, the scientists also learned some interesting things about the stars they spotted along the way. Cepheids, it turns out, tend to be found in groups, and that might mean that they tend to form bursts.


Warped galaxy with the distribution of young stars (Cepheids) in its disk as inferred from the Milky Way Cepheids.
J. Skowron/OGLE/Astronomical Obs

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; cepheids; cepheidvariables; galaxy; milkyway; pringle; science; warped
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To: BenLurkin

It’s all Trump’s fault!


41 posted on 08/05/2019 5:57:43 PM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim ( The following statement is false. The previous statement is true.)
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To: Jamestown1630
You have absolutely NO imagination.

It's mildly interesting but what are we going to do with this info, cure a disease?

42 posted on 08/05/2019 5:58:11 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

It might be a treatment for wanderlust.


43 posted on 08/05/2019 6:05:17 PM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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To: null and void

I took astrophysics as an elective as an undergrad. Some if it is mind boggling, really. In the end it is useless information.


44 posted on 08/05/2019 6:07:20 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: null and void; Tax-chick; Monkey Face
No, you can't borrow the keys to the Flying Castle.
45 posted on 08/05/2019 6:15:52 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (If you can't do something well, you won't do anything good.)
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To: NicknamedBob

Killjoy.


46 posted on 08/05/2019 6:17:35 PM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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To: central_va

What use is a newborn baby?


47 posted on 08/05/2019 6:35:42 PM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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To: null and void
”No the galaxy isn't that thin, that's about 1/6th of a light year. what that much displacement give you is a chance to look over the top of the thickest part of the smog and catch a clearer view of the core. Ever fly out of LAX? Near the top of the smog a few hundred feet make all the difference in the world! Smarter folks can give you a better answer as to how much visibility improvement, and also whether we get more bang for the buck going UP or DOWN out of the galactic plane...”

That’s really interesting. I never thought such a relatively short distance would get above the “galactic smog”, so to speak. Very exciting to think that a mission with such huge potential is so easily within our grasp.

Thanks for the explanation!

48 posted on 08/05/2019 6:53:58 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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To: BenLurkin

I was told, as an aspiring science fiction author, to avoid using the term, warp.

Does this mean warp drive is back on the accepted lexicon for sci-fi afficinados?


49 posted on 08/05/2019 6:54:27 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: central_va; null and void

It’s KNOWLEDGE.

Who knows what it may mean to us, in the future?

I like Knowledge. It helps us to understand....stuff :-)


50 posted on 08/05/2019 7:10:46 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: BenLurkin

That’s really neat if it’s true. They tell us that many of the rings of Saturn, as they swirl around the planet, interlace around and in and out through each other, but do not and have not become mushed into one big conglomerate ring, even after all these thousands of years. Only God could do that. So I say, keep it up Professors. Tell us MORE about the wonders of God’s Creation you’re discovering!


51 posted on 08/05/2019 7:11:30 PM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: Tucker39

AMEN!


52 posted on 08/05/2019 7:14:51 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: noiseman
Ummmmmmmmm, I don't know that the smog layer is really that thin.

If it is, yeah really exciting! Even if it isn't, the longer baseline by itself allows for a lot of interesting viewing. Imaging an accurate stereo view of the local neighborhood!

Even if it is thicker the smog should be getting less dense, we would still see through a glass darkly.

Suppose you need to be a full light year away?

At 0.01g that's a bit less than 15 years, still a LOT of fuel even with an ion engine, but maybe doable. Can the craft survive 15 years? Very likely. we have probes in deep space that have run for decades, and technology hasn't gotten worse in the meanwhile.

After the fuel runs out it coasts along fast enough to add another light year of distance every seven calendar years or so!

All bets are off if it hits something...

53 posted on 08/05/2019 9:06:02 PM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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To: Busywhiskers

Yep - explains why I sometimes wobble when I walk when everything seems straight and level on the surface...must be some weird gravitational fluctuations from the galactic warpage....


54 posted on 08/06/2019 4:21:43 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: null and void
What use is a newborn baby?

Why ask what?

55 posted on 08/06/2019 5:47:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

It’s a classic response to someone who says a new discovery or new invention is useless.


56 posted on 08/06/2019 6:30:54 AM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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To: null and void

I took astrophysics as an elective. It was mildly amusing but really not very practical. Calculating the hydrogen content of a white dwarf can only get you so far.


57 posted on 08/06/2019 6:42:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
The next part of the story, of course, is famous: Doctor Franklin is among the excited crowd watching the first balloon ascension from the Champ de Mars, August 27, 1783, and someone poses the inevitable conservative question—what good is it? Watching the balloon rise magically into the sky, the man who has busied himself with every novelty—with meteorology, inoculation, bifocals, lightning rods, postal service, hydrodynamics, even a sensible new stove—turns and replies: “What good is a newborn baby?” The epigram ricochets throughout Paris and the world.
And
As the story is usually told, the prime minister or some other senior politician was given a demonstration of induction by Faraday. When asked “What good is it?” Faraday replied: “What good is a newborn baby?” Or maybe he said: “Soon you will be able to tax it.” The former version of the story originated in a letter sent in 1783 by Faraday’s great predecessor in matters electrical, the American philosopher and politician Benjamin Franklin (Nature, vol 157, p 196). As for the source of the latter, no one knows.
Right now c appears to be the speed limit, it wasn't that long ago that it was said no one could breathe in a train going 30 mph and the passengers would suffocate (despite the manifest observation that a man easily endures a 60 mph hurricane!)

Perhaps string theory with its multiplicity of dimensions or dark matter with its God-knows-what will allow our betters in Washington to tax it!

58 posted on 08/06/2019 7:00:59 AM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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To: central_va

Agreed. Seeing how Mudder Nature achieves fusion has absolutely no bearing on how we might solve the energy crisis and use petroleum as God intended, as a feed stock for plastics, paints, pharmaceuticals, pesticides, etc., and not wastefully burn it!


59 posted on 08/06/2019 7:08:46 AM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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To: central_va

At the age when you and I were asking why, why, why, why, why to the annoyance of our parents, Newton was asking ‘What’s the goo’ of that?’ (I can’t find the reference, sorry)


60 posted on 08/06/2019 7:17:00 AM PDT by null and void (When the only tool you have is a hammer, ALL your problems look like skulls.)
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