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The US Land Forever Leased to England
bbc ^ | July 12, 2019 | Brian Carlton

Posted on 07/27/2019 9:36:12 AM PDT by bgill

While the US was officially neutral, Germany couldn’t openly attack the ships leaving East Coast ports with these supplies. That changed in December 1941, when Germany and Japan declared war on the United States. One month later, the U-boats arrived on the East Coast and started targeting ships right off Ocracoke.

“On the North Carolina coast, you have its Diamond Shoals, sandbars that ships want to avoid,” said Dr Frank Blazich, lead curator of military history for the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History. “Ships would be hugging the coast and then shooting out to avoid the shoals, which made for a perfect chokepoint. The U-boats could hide and just have a field day, firing away.”

And fire away they did. In January 1942 alone, U-boats sank 35 Allied ships off the East Coast. To put that in perspective, an average ship leaving the US carried enough supplies to feed England for more than a day, according to Dr Schwarzer. When you add up just those 35 ships lost in January 1942, it would have been more than enough to feed England for a month.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: england; nc; wwii
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1 posted on 07/27/2019 9:36:12 AM PDT by bgill
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While on the west coast Japanese subs were shelling areas on the west coast.


2 posted on 07/27/2019 9:45:10 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting for the record hoping some might read and pass around)
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Today, a small patch of land on Ocracoke Island where four English sailors are buried is permanently leased to Britain (Credit: Credit: Brian Carlton)

Today, a small patch of land on Ocracoke Island where four English sailors are buried is permanently leased to Britain (Credit: Brian Carlton)

3 posted on 07/27/2019 9:45:27 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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4 posted on 07/27/2019 9:47:39 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: bgill

The answer was the building of the Intracostal Waterway.


5 posted on 07/27/2019 9:49:41 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: bgill

Thanks


6 posted on 07/27/2019 9:53:04 AM PDT by Cold Heart (Deception, the greatest weapon of the demcrats.)
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To: bgill

There is a book written by Michael Gammon entitled “Operation Drumbeat” which details Germany’s U-Boat attacks on the East Coast shipping at the start of WW II. The US Navy was totally unprepared for the U-Boat attacks.
A great read!


7 posted on 07/27/2019 9:55:20 AM PDT by TaMoDee (The Pack will be back in 2019! Go Pack!!)
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To: mosesdapoet

While on the west coast Japanese subs were shelling areas on the west coast.


That was after war was declared in 1941. I had my first legal drink at a bar that included timbers (The bar is/was called The Timbers) from the shelled pier in Santa Barbara.


8 posted on 07/27/2019 9:57:07 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: bgill

Very interesting.


9 posted on 07/27/2019 10:10:53 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: SunkenCiv

*ping*


10 posted on 07/27/2019 10:24:27 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: hanamizu

“HORRYWOOD !”


11 posted on 07/27/2019 10:24:51 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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“HORRYWOOD !”


Early in 1942, my home town, Long Beach, was convinced that it was under air attack by the Japanese. In early ‘42 California was sure it was going to be attacked. I had a boss who remembered the ‘attack’ vividly.

You can read about it here:

http://www.theairraid.com


12 posted on 07/27/2019 10:32:54 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu

The IJN wanted to attack the US mainland like Doolittle attacked Japan. But they had to give it up when Yamamoto found ‘Doolittle’ was unpronounceable in Japanese.


13 posted on 07/27/2019 10:38:31 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: TaMoDee

If the Germans utilized the U-Boat more strategically,the war very well may have turned out quite different. That goes for their under utilization of their air power.


14 posted on 07/27/2019 10:40:17 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: sparklite2

My stepson, who lived in Japan for a while, took a picture at his gym. “Keep Rockers Clean”.


15 posted on 07/27/2019 10:41:02 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: TaMoDee
The US Navy was totally unprepared for the U-Boat attacks.

So was the German navy. Germans never had enough u-boats. The battleship Bismark weighted 41,000 long tons. A type VIIC U-boat weighted 759 long tons. 54 U-boats could have been built instead of the Bismarck.

16 posted on 07/27/2019 10:43:39 AM PDT by fso301
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Shouldn’t it have been, “Keep rockers crean’?


17 posted on 07/27/2019 10:46:30 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: fso301
The battleship Bismark weighted 41,000 long tons. A type VIIC U-boat weighted 759 long tons. 54 U-boats could have been built instead of the Bismarck.

The Bismarck, the Tirpitz, they were almost obsolete before their construction was complete. Doenitz lobbied hard, unsuccessfully, for more U-boats. Thank God.

18 posted on 07/27/2019 10:50:01 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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The US Navy was totally unprepared for the U-Boat attacks.

Adm. King refused to listen to the British advice to run convoys instead of one ship at a time. His argument was lack of escort vessels, but he hated the British and wouldn't listen to them. Lotta people died because of that.

19 posted on 07/27/2019 10:51:51 AM PDT by Oatka
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Thank you for that bit of extra history.

As a kid reading about WWII, I couldn’t figure out why the convoy system didn’t get utilized until later.


20 posted on 07/27/2019 11:07:35 AM PDT by wally_bert (Hola. Me llamo Inspector Carlton Lassiter. Me gusta queso.)
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