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Why Rich Kids Are So Good at the Marshmallow Test
Pocket Worthy ^ | June 24, 2019 | Jessica Calarco

Posted on 06/24/2019 7:46:41 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

[Affluence—not willpower—seems to be what’s behind some kids’ capacity to delay gratification.]

The marshmallow test is one of the most famous pieces of social-science research: Put a marshmallow in front of a child, tell her that she can have a second one if she can go 15 minutes without eating the first one, and then leave the room. Whether she’s patient enough to double her payout is supposedly indicative of a willpower that will pay dividends down the line, at school and eventually at work. Passing the test is, to many, a promising signal of future success.

But a new study has cast the whole concept into doubt. The researchers—NYU’s Tyler Watts and UC Irvine’s Greg Duncan and Hoanan Quan—restaged the classic marshmallow test, which was developed by the Stanford psychologist Walter Mischel in the 1960s. Mischel and his colleagues administered the test and then tracked how children went on to fare later in life. They described the results in a 1990 study, which suggested that delayed gratification had huge benefits, including on such measures as standardized test scores.

Watts and his colleagues were skeptical of that finding. The original results were based on studies that included fewer than 90 children—all enrolled in a preschool on Stanford’s campus. In restaging the experiment, Watts and his colleagues thus adjusted the experimental design in important ways: The researchers used a sample that was much larger—more than 900 children—and also more representative of the general population in terms of race, ethnicity, and parents’ education. The researchers also, when analyzing their test’s results, controlled for certain factors—such as the income of a child’s household—that might explain children’s ability to delay gratification and their long-term success.

Ultimately, the new study finds limited support for the idea that being able to delay gratification leads to better outcomes. Instead, it suggests that the capacity to hold out for a second marshmallow is shaped in large part by a child’s social and economic background—and, in turn, that that background, not the ability to delay gratification, is what’s behind kids’ long-term success.

The marshmallow test isn’t the only experimental study that has recently failed to hold up under closer scrutiny. Some scholars and journalists have gone so far to suggest that psychology is in the midst of a “replication crisis.” In the case of this new study, specifically, the failure to confirm old assumptions pointed to an important truth: that circumstances matter more in shaping children’s lives than Mischel and his colleagues seemed to appreciate.

This new paper found that among kids whose mothers had a college degree, those who waited for a second marshmallow did no better in the long run—in terms of standardized test scores and mothers’ reports of their children’s behavior—than those who dug right in. Similarly, among kids whose mothers did not have college degrees, those who waited did no better than those who gave in to temptation, once other factors like household income and the child’s home environment at age 3 (evaluated according to a standard research measure that notes, for instance, the number of books that researchers observed in the home and how responsive mothers were to their children in the researchers’ presence) were taken into account. For those kids, self-control alone couldn’t overcome economic and social disadvantages.

The failed replication of the marshmallow test does more than just debunk the earlier notion; it suggests other possible explanations for why poorer kids would be less motivated to wait for that second marshmallow. For them, daily life holds fewer guarantees: There might be food in the pantry today, but there might not be tomorrow, so there is a risk that comes with waiting. And even if their parents promise to buy more of a certain food, sometimes that promise gets broken out of financial necessity.

Meanwhile, for kids who come from households headed by parents who are better educated and earn more money, it’s typically easier to delay gratification: Experience tends to tell them that adults have the resources and financial stability to keep the pantry well stocked. And even if these children don’t delay gratification, they can trust that things will all work out in the end—that even if they don’t get the second marshmallow, they can probably count on their parents to take them out for ice cream instead.

There’s plenty of other research that sheds further light on the class dimension of the marshmallow test. The Harvard economist Sendhil Mullainathan and the Princeton behavioral scientist Eldar Shafir wrote a book in 2013, Scarcity: Why Having Too Little Means So Much, that detailed how poverty can lead people to opt for short-term rather than long-term rewards; the state of not having enough can change the way people think about what’s available now. In other words, a second marshmallow seems irrelevant when a child has reason to believe that the first one might vanish.

Some more-qualitative sociological research also can provide insight here. For example, Ranita Ray, a sociologist at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, recently wrote a book describing how many teenagers growing up in poverty work long hours in poorly paid jobs to support themselves and their families. Yet, despite sometimes not being able to afford food, the teens still splurge on payday, buying things like McDonald’s or new clothes or hair dye. Similarly, in my own research with Brea Perry, a sociologist (and colleague of mine) at Indiana University, we found that low-income parents are more likely than more-affluent parents to give in to their kids’ requests for sweet treats.

These findings point to the idea that poorer parents try to indulge their kids when they can, while more-affluent parents tend to make their kids wait for bigger rewards. Hair dye and sweet treats might seem frivolous, but purchases like these are often the only indulgences poor families can afford. And for poor children, indulging in a small bit of joy today can make life feel more bearable, especially when there’s no guarantee of more joy tomorrow.


TOPICS: Science; Society
KEYWORDS: defergratification; gregduncan; hoananquan; jessicacalarco; marshmallowtest; sociology; tylerwatts
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Do it with a pile of cash 💰 Then see what happens I have said often. I would not get excited at all if there was a billion in cash sitting in front of me It’s not real.
41 posted on 06/24/2019 10:00:16 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What if you set your marshmallow on fire?


42 posted on 06/24/2019 10:06:55 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

A kid might also think, “one marshmallow is plenty.” And I confess, when I was a certain age, I might just have been contrary enough to eat the one immediately and tell them, “I don’t want the second one.”


43 posted on 06/24/2019 10:30:06 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady ( Political correctness forbids discussing any negative outcomes of Left-wing ideology. -PMcL)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Re the "indulgences poor families can afford." That's a ridiculous suggestion on the author's part. My sister teaches poor, typically inner city 11 - 13 year olds mathematics. She's always amazed at what these kids wear, how they have their hair done, the phones they own, the shoes on their feet and the cars their mamas drive. "Hair dye and sweet treats." Maybe the author is harking back on days like this when Ma gave little Timmy a penny for a special candy treat.


44 posted on 06/24/2019 10:32:04 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Researchers attempted to confirm the results of the study by conducting a “spam test” and a “brussel sprout test”. 100% delayed gratification.


45 posted on 06/25/2019 1:10:18 AM PDT by Flick Lives (CNN is not healthy for children and other living things)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

This new result isn’t in contradiction to the original test; it affirms it. It shows why poverty is passed down, despite government programs to increase social motility.

The similarity of the kids’ socioeconomic background in the first test was actually useful; it reduced the socioeconomic of the parenting without presuming causality.

What drives the marshmallow test? The emotional security of the pay-off. Poor kids lack that security, and act in ways that perpetuate poverty.


46 posted on 06/25/2019 3:34:33 AM PDT by dangus
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To: be-baw

And Hershey’s special dark chocolate does not qualify.

Awwww...dang it.


47 posted on 06/25/2019 3:42:00 AM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

although they don’t come out and say it, white privilege mostly


48 posted on 06/25/2019 3:45:25 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

We’re poor and have a whole bag of marshmallows sitting on the shelf. If one of the kids wants a few for dessert, they’ll ask.

You’re only as rich as you feel.


49 posted on 06/25/2019 3:47:18 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: dangus

Has no-one ever noted the similarity between this test and the forgiven sin of Charlie Bucket in the chocolate factory?


50 posted on 06/25/2019 3:53:44 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Bird in the hand test ... kids who don't believe the researchers will give the second marshmallow just take what's in front of them and move on.

Satisfied? test ... incentive of just one more marshmallow isn't enough to stifle taking the offered snack. One is enough for now, but I'd wait fifteen minutes for a bag of them to take home and share.

Researchers can read whatever they want into the results. I wonder if the resaercheres were offered a second grant, if they'd hold off conducting this study.

51 posted on 06/25/2019 4:02:20 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

It means the researchers missed the lede.

The first study was correct.

What they just uncovered is that rich people are generally rich because they are smarter and think long term and pass that those traits in to their children.

But being biased liberals they cannot fathom that basic fact, so they declare the test faulty and biased.


52 posted on 06/25/2019 4:15:48 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

I remember that bit from the book.

However, he is talking about radically deprived people.

The poor of the inner city have internal deprivations and external abuses, but not the stringint deprevation of that era.


53 posted on 06/25/2019 4:15:48 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

As usual, trying to blame nameless, faceless, socioeconomics, rather than parents and individuals.

If children are not taught right vs. wrong, they will not be able to make good life decisions.


54 posted on 06/25/2019 4:23:23 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Isn’t Pocket owned by Mozilla...?


55 posted on 06/25/2019 4:24:40 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds,)
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To: ifinnegan

Yes, where are the controls? The variables? Holes can be poked through both sets of tests, and not just these, but most others, as you made mention.


56 posted on 06/25/2019 4:36:35 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Thommas

The urban poor today are different than the poor in the Depression.

The first, most obvious point, is that you mention a father.

The second was a general lack of dependence on the government—you depended on family and neighbors who shared a similar circumstance.

Times change and social standards change.

Plus, like all studies that are grand in scope and scale, your experience is going to be different.


57 posted on 06/25/2019 5:01:35 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (If we get Medicare for all, will we have to show IDs for service?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I thought a Marshmallow test would be about who can toast one a perfect brown color vs. those who turn it into a flaming charcoal mess.


58 posted on 06/25/2019 5:28:48 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The very basis of this should be questioned. For example, with many foods, I can eat “just one.” All I want is one. If a marshmallow was that food, it wouldn’t say anything about delayed gratification, because there would be no delayed gratification.

I love raspberry turnovers. But one is my limit, no matter how good it tastes.

A second issue is, I’m not particularly fond of marshmallows. Don’t hate them, but would never eat one by itself. Not interested. Again, no delayed gratification.


59 posted on 06/25/2019 5:46:08 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Retrofitted
"I would have taken the first marshmallow and eaten that without blinking. My reason: “Hell, you’re liberals! Why would I take your word that you even HAVE another marshmallow, let alone that you’d actually give it to the white-privileged kid who needs to pay reparations."

Good thinking..!! :)

60 posted on 06/25/2019 5:47:49 AM PDT by unread (Joe McCarthy was right.......)
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