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Iroquois Prophet predicted in 1451 Red Man will be conquered by White, then Blacks conquer White Man
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Posted on 06/07/2019 8:01:27 PM PDT by tired&retired

He also prophesied that Black man would then conquer the White Man and bring chaos. Then He would return as a Light in the sky to bring peace.

In 1451,forty years before Columbus first came to America, a Holy Man and Prophet known as Deganawida, "The Great Peacemaker" came to the Mohawk Indians in New York and convinced them to join forces with their enemies to form the Iroquois Federation. The 5 original tribes were later joined by the Tuscarora Indians who moved North from the Carolinas.

While there is much debate on this, the U.S. Government was formed using the Iroquois Federation as a model.

Per Wiki:

The Great Peacemaker Deganawida prophesied that a "white serpent" would come to his people's lands and make friends with them, only to deceive them later. A "red serpent" would later make war against the "white serpent", but an Indian boy would be given a great power. He would be accepted as a chosen leader by the people of "the land of the hilly country." The boy stays neutral in the fight, and he speaks to the people, who number as the blades of grass, but he is heard by all. After a season, a "black serpent" would come and defeat both the "white" and "red serpents". According to the prophecy, when the people gathered under the elm tree become humble, all three "serpents" would be blinded by a light many times brighter than the sun. Deganawidah said that he would be that light.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: faithandphilosophy; iroquois; prophet; vanity
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Iroquois and other NE Coast Indians had metallic broadheads when the Dutch and others / pilgrims arrived. Cannot link. Look it up.


41 posted on 06/07/2019 10:13:19 PM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: beethovenfan

“But he didn’t predict Orange Man.”

I agree. I observe and learn.

As a student of strategy, he has my admiration. The future will unfold as it is to be. Only the details of how it unfolds are the surprises.


42 posted on 06/07/2019 10:19:44 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: clearcarbon

“Odd! There’s nothing in that story about climate change.”

Climate change is the “White Light” that appears in the end to bring peace . It is already getting brighter and what you are now observing is the weeds fear of being burned.

Divine Grace is now stronger than ever on earth.


43 posted on 06/07/2019 10:24:02 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

Your history is lacking.


No doubt it is. But I didn’t say that all tribes picked the losing side, only most. The fact is, if I were an Indian, I’d find the French much more sympathetic to my well-being than the English. The French basically came to America to trade while the English came to settle, often on my lands.

After the French lost, the Brits tried to prohibit English settlement beyond the Appalachians—Proclamation of 1763. As an Indian, I like that idea. The Americans in the person of Capt. Washington of the Virginia Militia started the F&I War thought they had a right to settle the land the war was fought over and won. This was one of many grievances that led to the War of Independence. At this point, from the Indian point of view, the Brits are the good guys and the Americans are the bad when the American Revolution begins.

The Indians weren’t stupid. They rightly saw us (Americans) as a threat to their existence. It really boiled down to economics. Forty acres of land could support a whole lot more of us than them.


44 posted on 06/07/2019 10:25:25 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Cowboy Bob

Blame Jack Elam.


45 posted on 06/07/2019 10:34:33 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

The Iroquois had many of these same attributes 200 years prior to Locke and Rousseau.

Equality

Branch System of Government

Sovereignty of Member States

Citizens or Member Elders made government decisions

I agree that many of Locke’s ideas were used, but the Iroquois had the same ideas much earlier.


46 posted on 06/07/2019 10:49:30 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: hanamizu

My heritage is Heinz 57 varieties, a mixture of all. However a large portion is Native American on both sides of my parentage.

Native Americans should get full restitution before the black slaves!!! LOL

Society confuses technological knowledge with spiritual growth and the purpose our souls are here in these physical bodies.


47 posted on 06/07/2019 11:00:07 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: TigersEye

“In the 8th century the Buddhist master, Padmasambhava, who brought Buddhism to Tibet prophesied this...”

I have my suspicions that it is recent hoax but haven’t researched it.

Interestingly, there is a similar Catholic prophecy from the 1800s that also gets accused of being non-authentic (at least part of it, but without “proof”), but the author of the non-disputed portion is a saint, literally. So I don’t know what to think.


48 posted on 06/07/2019 11:35:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

And there is always the Malachi prophecy referenced in my tag line which deals not with iron carriages and iron birds but a crusty and heretical old pope.


49 posted on 06/07/2019 11:37:36 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: tired&retired

As familiar as you obviously are with methamphetamine?

No :)


50 posted on 06/07/2019 11:54:22 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Who? Blacks or Indians? My tribe has a defense contract to manufacture Patriot missile guidance systems. The Indian side of my family has produced quite a few engineers and scientists (I’m half-white, but majored in physics myself)... those of us who aren’t alcoholics anyhow.


51 posted on 06/07/2019 11:56:15 PM PDT by Lurker51
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To: waterhill

That’s true, the arrowheads were copper, but copper itself was a rarity. American Indians never got into mining and because of that, copper was only obtained from the surface.


52 posted on 06/08/2019 12:01:44 AM PDT by Lurker51
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To: tired&retired

Little unbeknownst to most, he also prophesied that the Chartreuse Man would conquer the Black Man.


53 posted on 06/08/2019 12:06:15 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: tired&retired
[...] a Holy Man and Prophet known as Deganawida, "The Great Peacemaker" came to the Mohawk Indians in New York [...]

What about the next quarterly earning results for Apple and Facebook? Did he happen to say anything about them?

Asking for a friend.

Regards,

54 posted on 06/08/2019 12:33:12 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Boalderdash! It's the yellow race that will rule the world, that goes further back, it's in the Bible. (Don’t ask me where.)

No, it's the Scandinavians that will rule the world!

It's in the Bible (just don't - for goodness sakes - ask me where).

Regards,

55 posted on 06/08/2019 12:36:28 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: tired&retired
I’ve been given many visions showing the unfolding. Time collapses when the frequency of consciousness exceeds the speed of light.

"For risks and side-effects, ask your doctor or pharmacist."

Regards,

56 posted on 06/08/2019 12:38:58 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: tired&retired

There is a mounting pile of good evidence(both archaeology and DNA) that the Vikings were in NA long before Columbus showed up. Possibly as long as 800 years before.

https://www.historyonthenet.com/viking-law-and-government-the-thing

Since the “Native Americans” never discovered the wheel I am not concerned about the prophecy being correct.


57 posted on 06/08/2019 12:52:45 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Secret Agent Man

Well, in a world without airplanes, cars or stable societies, I’d say they’ve got a leg up on whitey. I don’t doubt that that day is coming to parts of the world.


58 posted on 06/08/2019 1:43:55 AM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

You’re right, they can’t do it. The subjugation of whites will be voluntary, IQ notwithstanding.


59 posted on 06/08/2019 1:53:27 AM PDT by coaster123
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To: Secret Agent Man

If people don’t stop staring at their phones all day, it is the A.I who will conquer us all.


60 posted on 06/08/2019 2:46:18 AM PDT by Rebel Egg
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