Iroquois Prophet predicted in 1451 Red Man will be conquered by White, then Blacks conquer White Man

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[tired&retired]

He also prophesied that Black man would then conquer the White Man and bring chaos. Then He would return as a Light in the sky to bring peace.

In 1451,forty years before Columbus first came to America, a Holy Man and Prophet known as Deganawida, "The Great Peacemaker" came to the Mohawk Indians in New York and convinced them to join forces with their enemies to form the Iroquois Federation. The 5 original tribes were later joined by the Tuscarora Indians who moved North from the Carolinas.

While there is much debate on this, the U.S. Government was formed using the Iroquois Federation as a model.

Per Wiki:

The Great Peacemaker Deganawida prophesied that a "white serpent" would come to his people's lands and make friends with them, only to deceive them later. A "red serpent" would later make war against the "white serpent", but an Indian boy would be given a great power. He would be accepted as a chosen leader by the people of "the land of the hilly country." The boy stays neutral in the fight, and he speaks to the people, who number as the blades of grass, but he is heard by all. After a season, a "black serpent" would come and defeat both the "white" and "red serpents". According to the prophecy, when the people gathered under the elm tree become humble, all three "serpents" would be blinded by a light many times brighter than the sun. Deganawidah said that he would be that light.

[bigbob]

He was into the firewater at the time of great prophecy

[tired&retired]

Agreed

[tired&retired]

I find it interesting how their prophesy of the return of the Great Peacemaker parallels the Christian prophesy of Jesus the Prince of Peace returning to bring Peace on Earth.

[Rurudyne]

Let me suggest an alternative take: what group are the Left wing Cultural Suicide Fetish crowd importing and which has as their arsenals potentially every one of their supposed religious meeting houses? Who when they rape or even kill does the media try to downplay their religion?

But do not believe on account of this old Indian for there’s the suggestion that this bunch, which frequently wears black bandanna or arm bands to proclaim their devotion, may actually be what John saw which looked like Greek letters but we’re in a script that he didn’t know, the Arabic for : the name of Allah.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=cLOwo1BiAgg

[Cowboy Bob]

The Bell Curve is real and the brainpower just isnt there to do it.

And holding their weapons sideways, "gangsta style", doesn't help either.

[beethovenfan]

But he didn’t predict Orange Man.

[Flag_This]

"How did he know what a White Man was in 1451 America?"

They said he was a prophet.

[TigersEye]

That's interesting. In the 8th century the Buddhist master, Padmasambhava, who brought Buddhism to Tibet prophesied this...

When asked by his disciple when is the beginning of Dharma-ending age, Guru Rinpoche replied; “When the Iron Birds are flying in the sky and the Iron Horses are running on the roads, we know that dharma-ending age has arrived. At this time, Tibetan Buddhism shall flourish globally. When the iron bird flies and the horses run on wheels, the Tibetan people will be scattered like ants across the world, and the Dharma will come to the land of the red men."

In this Dharma-ending age, “Rulers do not act like Rulers, Subjects do not act like Subjects, Fathers do no act like Fathers, Sons do not act like Sons”, the relationships between Fathers and Sons are more like Playmates. Women do not honor and uphold chastity; men indulge in lust and unrestrained sexual misconducts."

[BenLurkin]

http://www.lerctr.org/~transit/healy/crap.wav

[John Milner]

Charlie Manson believed that too.

But he also thought eventually the black man would realize he wasn’t up to the task, then come to good ol’ Charlie to rule the world for them.

But Charlie? He day-yed.

[ConservativeMind]

I have never heard that the United States was modeled after an Indian Federation that existed here before Columbus arrived.

Can you back that up with a plausible source?

[hanamizu]

Most Indian tribes supported the British and fought for the British.

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The Indians had a real knack for picking the losing side—although I do understand the reasons for their choices.
• In the French & Indian War most tribes supported the French. The French lost.
• In the American Revolution most tribes supported the British. The British lost.
• In the War of 1812, most tribes supported the British. The Brits didn’t win.
• In the Civil War, many tribes supported the South. The South lost.

[tired&retired]

TigersEye, Thank You for sharing that.

The hair on my arms and neck stood up along with huge goosebumps when I read it.

Could you send a link or reference that I might read further? Many Thanks

namaste’

[boycott]

The Indians had a real knack for picking the losing side —

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Except at their casinos.

[tired&retired]

I mention the debate in the original post. Ben Franklin also commented on the Iroquois Federation when our government was forming. There is no question, our Republic is a hybrid. There are many similarities. In 1988, the U.S. Senate paid tribute with a resolution3 that said, "The confederation of the original 13 colonies into one republic was influenced by the political system developed by the Iroquois Confederacy, as were many of the democratic principles which were incorporated into the constitution itself." https://www.pbs.org/native-america/blogs/native-voices/how-the-iroquois-great-law-of-peace-shaped-us-democracy/

[txnativegop]

That was my thought as well.

[tired&retired]

Your history is lacking.

Due to the Iroquois Sachem Shikellamy being friends with the Penn Family, he convinced the Iroquois to side with the British in the French/British war.

However, the tribe was large and extended into Canada. Some sided with the French.

[tired&retired]

Is TigersEye Batchelor?

Excellent commentary.

I’ve been given many visions showing the unfolding. Time collapses when the frequency of consciousness exceeds the speed of light. There is far more when the journey is within than the longest journey to the stars.

It is interesting comparing the prophesies of all religions.

[clearcarbon]

Odd! There’s nothing in that story about climate change.

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

While there is much debate on this, the U.S. Government was formed using the Iroquois Federation as a model.

Try reading the Social Contract by Rousseau before making this claim. The Constitution is an idea of Dead White European Males.