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Does the Congress Have the Constitutional Authority to Ban Silencers/Suppressors
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Posted on 06/04/2019 8:36:42 AM PDT by Cassius Flavia Agrippa

The 2nd Amendment prohibits such a ban:

Yes, it does:________ No, it does not:_______

The Enumerated Powers Doctrine also prohibits such a ban:

Yes, it does:_________ No, it does not:_________


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1 posted on 06/04/2019 8:36:42 AM PDT by Cassius Flavia Agrippa
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa

SCOTUS will ultimately decide.


2 posted on 06/04/2019 8:39:39 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Nothing makes the delusional more furious than truth.)
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To: Don Corleone

What is YOUR opinion?


3 posted on 06/04/2019 8:40:16 AM PDT by Cassius Flavia Agrippa
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa

As I understand all rights are allowed by a Supreme Court decision to be regulated provided the regulation does not subvert the right.

“fire” in a theater for example.


4 posted on 06/04/2019 8:40:49 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: reed13k

What is YOUR opinion?


5 posted on 06/04/2019 8:41:51 AM PDT by Cassius Flavia Agrippa
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To: reed13k

And yet, someone may indeed yell FIRE someplace despite it maybe not being covered by the 1st. Of course it is covered by the 1st. Different consequences for different actions.


6 posted on 06/04/2019 8:43:47 AM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa

My opinion is that all powers not expressly, explicitly, and definitively delegated to the feds reside with the people or the States.


7 posted on 06/04/2019 8:44:05 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa

Is there really such a thing as a SILENCER?

Hollywood actually has some silencers on 9mm pistols that reduce the report to a pffft. I’m not buying it.


8 posted on 06/04/2019 8:44:14 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism: intolerance masquerading as tolerance)
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa

Clearly you don’t understand gun politics. Our opinion doesn’t matter to Congress.


9 posted on 06/04/2019 8:44:45 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Loud Mime

Maxim’s original patent used the word.

Now, what is your opinion on the questions?


10 posted on 06/04/2019 8:45:57 AM PDT by Cassius Flavia Agrippa
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa

To go from restrictive permit to ban is sadly not a big step. Since they have already long-established the precedence of restricting them, I figure banning them is an easy next step. Trump seems to suddenly not like them. Cornyn has been a chief sponsor in Congress but only trots it out when it serves his fundraising needs. I don’t think there is much momentum to protect permits, much less simply legalize them. Thus, banning them is a possibility.


11 posted on 06/04/2019 8:46:30 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I DO understand the politics.

I am asking your opinion.

I realize that Congress may not care about your opinion.


12 posted on 06/04/2019 8:46:53 AM PDT by Cassius Flavia Agrippa
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa
In 1934, Congress knew what the Second Amendment meant, and when they wished to ban silencers/suppressors and machine guns, they didn't try to pass an outright ban, they passed the 1934 National Firearms Act which instituted a then outrageous $200 tax on each suppressor or machine gun. That is $3,800 in 2019 dollars.

If Congress today wishes to ban suppressors, they can simply amend the 1934 NFA to increase the tax to $100,000, and given that Roberts is on the Court, the Supremes would have no trouble upholding the tax increase.

13 posted on 06/04/2019 8:47:38 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Reno89519

What is YOUR opinion on the Constitutionality of such a ban?


14 posted on 06/04/2019 8:47:47 AM PDT by Cassius Flavia Agrippa
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To: Yo-Yo

What is YOUR opinion on the Constitutionality of such a ban?


15 posted on 06/04/2019 8:48:14 AM PDT by Cassius Flavia Agrippa
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To: Loud Mime

Saw a movie once where they had a ‘silencer’ on a revolver..................


16 posted on 06/04/2019 8:48:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa

It’s a health issue. The pirate Roberts already proved a member of scotus can be blackmailed to regulate and or ban anything under the rubrik of a health issue.


17 posted on 06/04/2019 8:51:11 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa

My opinion is that there is no legitimate ban on these.

The Second Amendment says that we have the right to bear arms. As others have said, despite the First Amendment, “Fire!” in a theater is not usually allowed, and so one might guess that some restrictions could be placed on arms.

To support a ban, I think, is to make the claim that under the Second Amendment you may be able to bear arms — but you cannot bear “quiet” arms. That’s silly. It’s not in the text. It wasn’t the intention of the Founders. It is a baseless claim and therefore I see no reason why a suppressor can be prohibited.


18 posted on 06/04/2019 8:51:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: Cassius Flavia Agrippa

They can ‘ban’ whatever the like, but that won’t stop them from being manufactured or used.

They ban illegal drugs, and look how well that works..............


19 posted on 06/04/2019 8:52:29 AM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

Mosin Nagant revolvers were design in such a way that the cylinder pushed against the barrel to seal the gasses making a suppressor work with a revolver.


20 posted on 06/04/2019 8:53:47 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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