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Hydrogen-power electric flying vehicle: Long road to liftoff
Phys.org ^ | May 31, 2019

Posted on 06/01/2019 7:18:04 PM PDT by ETL

A transportation company is betting its sleek new hydrogen-powered electric flying vehicles will someday serve as taxis, cargo carriers and ambulances of the sky, but experts say they will have to clear a number of regulatory hurdles before being approved for takeoff years in the future.

With six rotors on the roof and seats inside for five people, a passenger model of the Skai (pronounced "sky") unveiled Wednesday near Los Angeles resembles an oversized drone crossed with a luxury SUV.

Like a drone, the from Alaka'i Technologies takes off and lands vertically.

It's one of many similar electric flying crafts in production, including prototypes from Boeing and Airbus that made successful test flights this year, according to Vertical Flight Society, an industry group.

Most are powered by batteries, which can add a lot of weight.

The Skai instead uses very light hydrogen fuel cells to run its rotors, giving it a range of 400 miles and the capacity to carry 1,000 pounds in people or freight, the company says.

"We just couldn't get to the point where we could have enough batteries to get to the payload that we knew we needed," CEO Stephan Hanvey said of the choice to switch to hydrogen power.

Alaka'i says it's planning a test flight near its Massachusetts headquarters.

It would be flown by an on-board pilot using a pair of joysticks, but the technology exists to eventually fly it remotely and even autonomously, Hanvey said.

It will be years before the Federal Aviation Administration allows the autonomous flight of passenger vehicles, said attorney Thaddeus Lightfoot, a partner with the firm Dorsey & Whitney who helps companies navigate FAA rules.

Regulators are still grappling with the proliferation of smaller drones—those under about 50 pounds flown by hobbyists and filmmakers.

The FAA just this year eased restrictions on flying small drones over crowds and at night.

Drone-like vehicles such as the Skai must first simply prove their airworthiness, like any common plane, Lightfoot said.

After that, getting commercial certification is another convoluted process, he said.

"The technology is interesting, but the regulatory road will be very long," said Lightfoot, adding that the idea of allowing people to fly in a large aircraft without a pilot is "well outside the current regulatory regime."

Hanvey conceded that it could take at least a decade before the company realizes his vision of a fleet of electric flying vehicles ferrying passengers over major cities at nearly 120 mph.

Before that, he hopes to see Skai aircraft used by first responders to send in food or water following disasters like hurricanes or wildfires that can destroy infrastructure.

It could be used as an ambulance and to evacuate people, Hanvey said.

Outfitted with a transmitter, one could serve as a mobile cell tower, hovering for up to 10 hours over a neighborhood to provide communication services, he said.


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1 posted on 06/01/2019 7:18:04 PM PDT by ETL
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2 posted on 06/01/2019 7:18:18 PM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! New Updates on Dem-Russia collusion via Ukraine ! Click ETL)
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To: ETL

400 mile range and 1000 pounds of cargo would make it very useful.


3 posted on 06/01/2019 7:22:37 PM PDT by riverrunner ( o the public,)
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4 posted on 06/01/2019 7:28:28 PM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! New Updates on Dem-Russia collusion via Ukraine ! Click ETL)
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To: riverrunner

400 mile range and 1000 pounds of cargo would make it very useful.


Um, I have my doubts. I will believe that when I see it from a vertical lift vehicle, even on ‘light hydrogen’ cells...


5 posted on 06/01/2019 7:41:29 PM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: ETL

Ever seen a hydrogen explosion?


6 posted on 06/01/2019 7:44:20 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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Ever seen a hydrogen explosion?

Only on Cable television...



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7 posted on 06/01/2019 7:50:39 PM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! New Updates on Dem-Russia collusion via Ukraine ! Click ETL)
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To: ETL

That’s the first thing I thought of when I saw “hydrogen.”


8 posted on 06/01/2019 7:52:20 PM PDT by susannah59
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To: MV=PY; ETL

9 posted on 06/01/2019 7:53:00 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: ETL

no pusher prop, no winglets = 400 miles very dubious


10 posted on 06/01/2019 7:55:40 PM PDT by gaijin
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Very small electric motors for the job it needs to do.


11 posted on 06/01/2019 7:57:50 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: riverrunner

If they can get a hydrogen powered engine to fly this vehichle plus 1000 pounds 400 miles why is the same tech not being developed for cars ? Hydrogen engines with 500 mile range would ve a win gor all sides. Would allow oil companies to focus less on gasoline and more on batural gas gor generating electricity and maritime engines.


12 posted on 06/01/2019 7:58:17 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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“Oh the humanity!”


13 posted on 06/01/2019 7:58:23 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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To: ETL

What happens when just one rotor hub shucks its gears?

The cab would make for a snazzy first class tram or ski resort cable lift.


14 posted on 06/01/2019 8:00:57 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: xkaydet65
"Why is the same tech not being developed for cars?"

Hydrogen has a atomic weight of pretty much 1.

Very difficult to store/use without leaking.

No Smoking...try to enforce that.

Fueling will also have it's procedures...enforce that.

15 posted on 06/01/2019 8:18:14 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: ETL

120 mph isn’t very fast. 400 miles in 3 hrs 20 min is a long time especially if it is getting a patient to medical care. A 170 mph helicopter would be do 400 miles in 2 hrs 20 min.


16 posted on 06/01/2019 8:33:09 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: ETL
As God is my witness, I thought hydrogen could fly.


17 posted on 06/01/2019 8:48:38 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Leave the job, leave the clearance. It should be the same rule for the Swamp as for everyone else.)
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To: DoodleBob

Lol! I thought of that too (Oh, the huge manatee!).


18 posted on 06/01/2019 8:51:48 PM PDT by ETL (REAL Russia collusion! New Updates on Dem-Russia collusion via Ukraine ! Click ETL)
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To: xkaydet65

Compressed hydrogen vehicles have been built on and off for decades.
Not that unusual as a college level engineering exercise or corporate demonstration vehicle.
It was not THAT long ago that we had a big eco-nut push for hydrogen to replace gasoline, before the current EV/Lithium mandate.

Fears of explosion are overblown and able to be dealt with.
As I recall competitively priced production of hydrogen is the major bottleneck to wide use.

The hydrogen is not why you would never get me into one of these.
In a conventional helicopter you at least have the possibility of auto-rotation slowing your descent but I’m fairly certain this thing would tumble if one rotor failed.


19 posted on 06/01/2019 8:56:23 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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Because it takes electricity to make hydrogen? So the hydrogen vehicle is basically an electric vehicle.


20 posted on 06/01/2019 9:03:05 PM PDT by Rio
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