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Man flushes grandparents' ashes down a toilet after fight with mother over marijuana use
Washington Examiner ^ | 4/30/19 | John Gage

Posted on 05/04/2019 11:14:32 AM PDT by Libloather

A Pennsylvania man is facing criminal charges after flushing his grandparents' ashes down the toilet.

Thomas Porter Wells, 33, allegedly did the deed after his mother kicked him out of her house because of his drinking habit and marijuana use.

Wells texted his mother later, saying "and soon as you die you'll be going in the same spot where you belong down the (expletive) you (expletive)."

**SNIP**

Wells faces two counts of abuse of a corpse and criminal mischief.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


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To: trisham

Exactly what I was thinking


41 posted on 05/04/2019 1:17:04 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Responsibility2nd

How is it wrong? To who?

I want to be cremated. The idea of decomposing in the ground gross me out.


42 posted on 05/04/2019 1:20:48 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: M Kehoe

....booze and pot....the brain rots along with your looks....I’ve seen 20 yr old something women who look like their late 40’s cokeheads...


43 posted on 05/04/2019 1:22:13 PM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: trisham

It’s expensive out there. So, it get not moving out at 18.

But, living with ones parents at 33 is not mentally or emotionally healthy for either party.


44 posted on 05/04/2019 1:23:40 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Sacajaweau

Why not put ashes into a grave in a cemetery?

That’s what Catholics are supposed to do. Not that they do it. But they are obliged to do so. Burying the dead is a tenet of Catholicism we’re not supposed to keep their ashes in a pot in a closet.


45 posted on 05/04/2019 1:24:31 PM PDT by stanne
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To: roadcat

Most of the adult kids still at home have mental health issues.

Significant and crippling depression often with psychosis.

Delusional disorders.

Paralyzing anxiety also with psychosis.


46 posted on 05/04/2019 1:26:57 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: roadcat

He’s probably unemployed, on drugs, has a mental illness, and/or a combination.


47 posted on 05/04/2019 1:28:09 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: faucetman
The human body is the temple of the Holy Spirit. That's why people of faith give reverent treatment to human remains.

And these same remains will come to life again at the Resurrection of the Body. Yes, even if a person was hit by an nuclear device, and their atomized molecules got blown up to the stratosphere, scattered, and circled the earth.

We adore God; we respect the image and likeness of God.

"Respect" is not the same as "idol worship."

48 posted on 05/04/2019 1:31:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: HollyB
He’s probably unemployed, on drugs, has a mental illness, and/or a combination.

He is employed, although he is a mess. Father was in and out of jail, on drugs, but always had good jobs and brought in money (passed away over a year ago). The two sons followed their father's lead, on drugs and did some jail-time. Both sons had a couple kids from different women, one of the women is living there with the younger son. After the dad died, the mom told them to get out but the sons won't leave. One is 48, I think the other is 44. I think they are trying to outlive the mom while staying there but she is a healthy 65. We don't dare intervene because of the boy's rough nature. We got along good with the dad (he always told us he would handle anyone who messed with us and we believed he would what with his shady friends and their weapons) but we kept our distance. Would you believe the grandpa was a church pastor before he died? A christian upbringing did not help here.

49 posted on 05/04/2019 1:40:56 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: HollyB

“But, living with ones parents at 33 is not mentally or emotionally healthy for either party.”

No, it’s not. It also suggests a family pathology that goes beyond what his issues are. Destructive families can lead to co-dependent relationships in which family members are pathologically dependent on each other, and abusive to each other.


50 posted on 05/04/2019 1:46:32 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: roadcat

I feel bad for their mother. She has no control in her own home. She may have to have the cops escort them off the property.


51 posted on 05/04/2019 2:00:55 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: stanne

Not everyone is Catholic. I grew up Catholic, but left the Catholic Church.

My father wanted to be cremated. We don’t have him in a closet. That defeats the purpose of keeping his ashes. We have his cremation box sealed to go in my mother’s grave with her when that day comes.

But, as for me. I never want to go in the ground or in a mausoleum as my mom has in place. Graves/cemeteries, etc give me the creeps. Hardly anyone goes to visit, so they are lonely places. As I’ve grown older, I feel cremation is a much more dignified way to deal with the remains, imo.


52 posted on 05/04/2019 2:12:01 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Libloather

“Wells faces two counts of abuse of a corpse...”

Good luck with that. Under that reasoning then anyone who ever spread anyone’s ashes anywhere would be guilty of the same. I don’t approve of what this kid did, but it does not give authorities the right to abuse the law.


53 posted on 05/04/2019 2:13:32 PM PDT by Revel
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To: HollyB

My Moms, and my Grandmothers ashes are sitting on a shelf, in a place of honor, on my dining room hutch. I have three dogs above them, in their honor spots. Hubby and I call it The Graveyard Shelf! HAHA! Ain’t no way I’m going into the ground. Nope.


54 posted on 05/04/2019 2:20:25 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: Mama Shawna

You understand!


55 posted on 05/04/2019 2:27:29 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: HollyB

My family has been told no obituaries, no services of any sort and no mausoleum or dragging ashes around.

I’ve asked that they scatter my ashes but really I don’t care what they do with them they can flush them for all I care.

I want everyone to just keep on keeping on and be happy.

:)


56 posted on 05/04/2019 2:33:46 PM PDT by Califreak (If Obama had been treated like Trump the US would have been burnt down before Inauguration Day)
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To: HollyB
She may have to have the cops escort them off the property.

We don't know what will happen. I mentioned both boys did jail time. The older son spent almost 7 years in prison for beating his girlfriend. The mother is a sweet woman and a friend of my wife since they were 5 years old, I've known her since high school. Sons take after their father, who was in a motorcycle gang and ran in rough circles. One time we were there and he accidentally blew a hole in the floor with his shotgun while showing guns to some friends; we made a hasty exit. So it's not easy dealing with some people, knowing their background.

57 posted on 05/04/2019 2:37:06 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Bruce Kurtz
Then there's this UK angler who has his ashes turned into fish food

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2513796/Anglers-ashes-turned-into-fish-food.html

58 posted on 05/04/2019 2:46:43 PM PDT by Daffynition (*I'm living the dream.* & :))
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To: HollyB

In a former career, I had a supervisor who left home at the young age of 38 to get married.

Almost too young to go.


59 posted on 05/04/2019 2:47:41 PM PDT by wally_bert (Disc jockeys are as interchangeable as spark plugs.)
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To: trisham

There’s an “adulting” sticker for paying bills on time, cooking for themselves, not over sleeping and cleaning the litter box. Maybe they need one for not flushing the relatives.


60 posted on 05/04/2019 2:56:37 PM PDT by bgill (when you badmouth women, you are badmouthing your mama and the good women on FR)
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