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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, “We are Q.” For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
“Q” is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as “breadcrumbs.” One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the “Deep State” of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnon’s Pernicious Connections to “Pizzagate”
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminals–including child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the “Pizzagate” and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the “Pizzagate” and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the “Pizzagate” conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the “Pizzagate” fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House “prove” that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
I looked at your MAGAcoalition site. Looks like just another deep state money generating political fraud group to me. A store, donation button, etc. No thanks.
“60k contribution from the MAGA Coalition to The Threat Knowledge Group”
Did you read the FEC report from MAGA Coalition? Because I think you’re repeating
something that amounts to next to nothing. There’s not a contribution. There’s a payment made and it’s far smaller from a total of 60K. So you’re repeating ‘religious’ belief but not the report.
Do you know how to read a FEC report for yourself? Go see it FRiend.
“I looked at your MAGAcoalition site.”
First, it’s not my site. I have no affiliation with the site other than as a reader. The irrefutable proof of the QAnon grift is all there.
If you dare FRiend, if you dare.
I can smell sheep a mile away.
Barr spoke at some length today that the remedy is not necessarily a criminal prosecution. There are lesser consequences.
Barr noted that legislation was passed in the wake of exposure of FBI spying on MLK and others. I'm a total skeptic on passing laws, being of a mind that the purpose of the laws is to fool the public. All the laws, and the government is practicing wholesale snooping today, even against political enemies, and even making up stories and leaking them to the press (with the imprimatur associated with "high sources in the government") in order to affect the outcome of "free and fair elections." We do not have free and fair elections when the mass propaganda and government institutions are lying to the public. We have free elections to be sure, but they are guided by popular sentiment based on falsehood, not the truth.
Impressive.
Like I said, I don't have my notes and sources available at the moment. I may stand corrected on money coming in, but I do have some of the money going out. Looks like Gorka is getting $20k a month to lend his name.
The Threat Knowledge Group Bagster mentioned is worth doing some research on.
The FEC link is HERE.
I think the disconnect here is between what Q has posted and what
gets discussed on the Q threads. At least within the confines
of Free Republic, the Q material is linked indelibly with the
discussions on the Q threads... which can go far afield and into odd directions.
Claiming “Q never posted that!” is kind of weak when shown
upside the discussions that ensue. If folks are going to be
Q folks, then those threads are going to be representative
of the movement.
Or whatever you prefer to call it.
April 2018 - the QAnon Hoax drop:
“What happens to the special counsel?
Rudy met w/ Mueller today.
Coincidence?
Connect.
Public announcement.
End of POTUS investigation?
Continue w/ other investigations?
Stage set?
Support growing?
Strategic?
Planned?
We have it all.
Welcome to the WH.
Q”
Oh yeah, it’s April 2019 and no, the Mueller scam investigation did NOT end in April 2018.
Now you want to talk about how the QAnon grifters have been outing themselves?
Of course not.
Well, you are invited as everyone to debate your QAnon “anonymous” Qult who get it all wrong and brag that Santa’s thousands of indictments are about to be unsealed with people going to GITMO.
Yeah, we’ve seen how all those arrests have worked out. SMH.
You're thinking about it all wrong, which is the main problem with you sleepers.
Q doesn't make "predictions" so much as outline a "plan" and reveal portions of it.
You guys really need to get your minds right and try to understand what the Donald and his patriot team are attempting here, in the only way they could possibly succeed..
This isn't some kind of Nostradamus/Gypsy crystal ball thing. This is THE PLAN TO SAVE THE WORLD.
How would you do it? Oh, that's right. ARREST THEM ALL RIGHT NOW!!1!1111!111!!
Sheesh, again with the you people.
p.s. Why did Gorka get fired?
MAGAwhimps need a debate, that’s for sure. Clicks.
Are you inve$ted, yourself? I guess you are.
Haven’t seen anyone humping this hard for clicks to MAGAwhimps, since KIRBY vacuum sales reps went door to door.
Q Researchers, research. MAGAwhimps feed, and require open mouths hanging around. For the spoon full.
Q Decoders debate no one.
MI don’t entertain at tricky websites with open pockets.
You’ve been conned.
Nicely done, marron. You are committed to no one, and you “get it”. Fearlessness helps and a modicum of Energy to learn for self-gratification.
THE GOOD THING ABOUT Q:
follow it or not, people have been taking a closer look at the unlawful things that have happened and are clamoring for JUSTICE!!!
Just because Q said that Adm Rogers is a hero doesn’t make him NOT a hero!
Just because Q exposed NoName’s past activities doesn’t mean NoName’s nefarious ties don’t get a closer look!
etc., etc....
Many people who would not have been previously paying attention are now standing up and DEMANDING justice.
No harm in that!
Good job! I’m happy you did look for yourself and not repeat the false QAnon “facts” that others insist without looking at all is true.
Yes, that was a payment to Seb Gorka who did work with the MAGA Coalition.
And that’s long over. It is the same as for many PACS for a one-time event.
MAGA Coaltion also had Gov. Sarah Palin do an event in the DC area. It was a good event although I’ve only seen a little of it on video.
For more on the irrefutable proofs on all this, see MAGAcoaltion.com.
Now dig in further on the QAnon grifters who already exposed themselves inadvertently FRiend.
You've got that right! I spend the majority of my computer time digging and researching. Very little time for chit chat. I wish that FR was more open to it as the lone Q research page here isn't adequate to absorb the massive amounts of info that's dug up on so many fronts. It becomes too confusing, especially when you factor in all the idle chit chat.
Here’s the FEC doc, in case you missed it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3741004/posts?page=109#109
Threat Knowledge Group is a counter-terrorist think tank in Maclean, VA, run by....
Katherine Gorka. Sebasian’s wife.
Looks like MAGA Coalition is pumping at least $40k per month on contract to the Gorkas.
That doesn’t smell good to me.
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