Posted on 03/28/2019 8:50:21 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
The Hall of Fame recently dedicated at New York University was conceived from the Ruhmes Halle in Bavaria. This structure on University Heights, on the Harlem river, in the borough of the Bronx, New York City, has, or is intended to have, a panel of bronze with other mementos for each of one hundred and fifty native-born Americans who have been deceased at least ten years, and who are of great character and fame in authorship, education, science, art, soldiery, statesmanship, philanthropy, or in any worthy undertaking. Fifty names were to have been chosen at once; but, on account of a slight change of plans, only twenty-nine have been chosen, and twenty-one more will be in 1902. The remaining one hundred names are to be chosen during the century, five at the end of each five years. The present judges of names to be honored are one hundred representative American scholars in different callings. They are mostly Northern men, although at least one judge represents each State.
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Just as Liberals call abortion "choice", so too did Liberal Lincoln make up the claim that peaceful secession was "INSURRECTION!"
He was like cop who beats up a prisoner, and then claims prisoner assaulted him.
No insurrection. Just lying Abe trying to make up justification for launching a war to stop the South from damaging the financial interests of his rich buddies back in New York.
George Washington was indeed a traitor to his country, but he helped establish a new country built on the premise that people have a right to independence if they wish it.
The Declaration of Independence is quite clear that legitimacy of governance relies on "consent of the governed", and that "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. "
George Washington was a traitor to the United Kingdom. Abraham Lincoln was a traitor to the principle upon which *THIS* nation was founded, otherwise known as the right of independence.
None of the people seeking their God given right to independence were traitors. They were true to the principles outlined by our own founding document "*FOUR SCORE AND SEVEN YEARS*" earlier.
You’re yellow.
I’d scare the Mitt out of you in person, boy.
How do General. Ford pardoned Nixon. The two of them were a couple of bums.
All yellow dogs are spawned from the likes of him.
Acts of insurrection:
Source: The Beginning And The End, by Dayton Pryor:
December 27, 1860. The first Federal property to fall into South Carolina hands is the U.S. revenue cutter William Aiken, turned over to secessionists by its commander, Capt. N. l. Coste, who did not resign his commission and herefore was in violation of his oath of office. The crew left the ship and went North.
Castle Pickney was seized by South Carolina militia and a problem arose: were the two Federal soldiers capture in the fort to be considered prisoners of war? If so, it would imply there was, in fact, a war. Following a lengthy discussion, the one Federal officer was allowed to go to Fort Sumter while a sergeant and his family were given safe conduct to remain in their quarters at the fort. What was significant was that the secessionists no held, for the first time, a U.S. fort. Union officer Abner Doubleday called it “...the first overt act of the Secessionists against the Sovereignty of the United States.”
Fort Moultrie is taken by South Carolina militia.
December 28, 1860. A detachment of South Carolina militia enters and takes control of Fort Johnson. Three out of four Federal forts have been seized and are now under the control of South Carolina militia troops.
January 3, 1861. The War Department cancelled plans to ship guns from Pittsburgh to the forts in the South. Former Secretary of War Floyd, who resigned and went South, had been shipping weapons and large guns South for the past several months to help build up the Southern arsenals.
January 4, 1861. Even though it has not yet seceded from the Union, Alabama troops seize the U.S. arsenal at Mt. Vernon, Alabama.
January 5, 1861. Even though it STILL has not yet seceded fro the Union, Alabama seizes Fort Morgan and Gaines which protect the harbor at Mobile.
January 6, 1861. Even though it has not yet seceded from the Union, Florida troops seize the Federal arsenal at Apalachiocola.
January 7, 1861. Still not having yet separated from the Union, Florida troops seize Fort Marion at St. Augustine.
January 8, 1861. At Fort Barrancas, guarding the entrance to Pensacola Harbor, Federal troops fired on a raiding party of about twenty men, who then fled.
January 9, 1861. On this day, Senators Judah P. Benjamin and John Slidell of Louisiana telegraphed Gov. Moore of that state, which had not yet seceded from the Union, that Federal gunboats were secretly bringing supplies to the forts at the mouth of the Mississippi River. Here are a pair of men who were secretly betraying a government to which they still swore their allegiance. Gov. Moore ordered Braxton Bragg and 500 troops to seize the forts and the United States arsenal at Baton Roughe.
The Star of the West attempted to resupply Fort Sumter, but was fired upon by a masked battery from Morris Island and then by guns from Fort Moultrie, in spite of the fact two U.S. flags were flown. The ship was repeatedly fired on, forcing it to turn and steam away.
January 10, 1861. Gen. Bragg and the militia seize the U.S. forts and arsenals in Louisana.
January 12, 1861. Capt. James Armstrong, commander of the Warrington Navy Yard at Pensacola, Florida, is captured and regarded as a prisoner of war, and ...placed on his parole of honor...not to bear arms against the State of Florida.
January 13, 1861. Several men are seen near Fort Pickens in the night and were fired upon. These unknown men retired from the area of the fort.
January 21, 1861. Mississippi troops seize Fort Massachusetts off the coast, in the Gulf. Ship Island is also taken.
January 24, 1861. Georgia troops occupy the U.S. arsenal at Augusta.
January 24, 1861. At Savannah, Georgia, Fort Jackson and the Oglethorpe Barracks are seized by state troops.
January 29, 1861. Louisiana state troops take possession of Fort Macomb, outside New Orleans. The revenue cutter Robert McClelland was surrendered to Louisiana state authorities by Capt. Breshwood, despite orders not to do so by the Secretary of the Treasury.
January 31, 1861. In New Orleans, the U.S. Branch Mint was seized by state troops along with the revenue schooner Washington.
February 8, 1861. Before it had seceded from the Union, Arkansas troops seize the Little Rock U.S. arsenal.
February 12, 1861. Confederate officials in Montgomery took charge of matters related to occupation of Federal property within the seceded states and all other military matters. On that date they “Resolved in the Congress of the Confederate States of American, That this government takes under its charge the questions and difficulties now existing between the several states of this Confederacy and the government of the United States of America, relative to the occupation of forts, arsenals, navy-yards, and other public establishments...”
February 15, 1861. The Confederate Congress passes a second resolution “That it is the sense of this Congress that immediate steps should be taken to obtain possession of Forts Sumter and Pickens...either by negotiations or force, as early as practicable, and that the President is hereby authorized to make all necessary military preparations...”
February 16, 1861. Before it had seceded from the Union, Texas militia in San Antonio seize the U.S. military compound, barracks and arsenal.
February 19, 1861. In New Orleans, the U.S. Paymaster’s office was seized by state troops.
March 2, 1861. Texas, now out of the Union, seized the U.S. revenue schooner Henry Dodge at Galveston.
Each one in and of itself an act of insurrection and many overt acts of war. And all before Lincoln was sworn in as president.
The war was not lost after Gettysburg. Today, Gettysburg is seen as a turning point, but the war was not lost there. In 1864, Lincoln was under fire from all sides to end the war. Many wanted to make peace with the Confederacy, which would have meant the Confederacy would have gained its independence. The campaign of 1864 was almost ruinous for the Union. They suffered terrible casualties in the the Wilderness and Spotsylvania battles, and then lost many more attempting to assail Lee's position at Cold Harbor. Even though Grant was doing what he was supposed to, people were getting tired of the casualties. The election was coming up, and Lincoln was being challenged by the democrats who wanted to end the war.
Fortunately for the Union, Sherman took Atlanta, and voters in the North began to feel the war was entering its final phase. Lincoln was re-elected, and the war was allowed to continue. I cannot blame Lee and Davis for continuing to fight after Gettysburg. They came closer than people realize to achieving their goal. However, once they were bottled up in Petersburg with Sherman on his way to join Grant, the South should have called it quits IMO.
This does not meet the definition of the word "Insurrection."
Castle Pickney was seized by South Carolina militia and a problem arose: were the two Federal soldiers capture in the fort to be considered prisoners of war? If so, it would imply there was, in fact, a war. Following a lengthy discussion, the one Federal officer was allowed to go to Fort Sumter while a sergeant and his family were given safe conduct to remain in their quarters at the fort. What was significant was that the secessionists no held, for the first time, a U.S. fort. Union officer Abner Doubleday called it “...the first overt act of the Secessionists against the Sovereignty of the United States.”
Funny you should mention Abner Doubleday. He says that the South Carolinians were informed by none other than US secretary of War John Floyd, that all fortifications would be shortly turned over to Confederate forces. (21st of November, 1860)
I also believe I have informed you of this on a previous occasion.
Are you telling me that the lone sergeant at Castle Pinkney didn't get the word before the Militia showed up? Anderson certainly knew of it. In any case, no violence, which is a requirement to call it an "insurrection."
Fort Moultrie is taken by South Carolina militia.
Fort Moultrie was abandoned by Major Anderson, it's cannons were spiked and it's gun carriages were burned. The people of Charleston went to bed thinking that the Union bore them no harm, and woke up to fires burning in the Fort set by a man who seemed to regard them as an enemy. They regarded this as the first belligerent act of the war.
I've knocked down three of your false claims. Three strikes, you're out! I don't feel any need to research or refute your remaining claims, because who ever wrote your message for you didn't care about the actual truth, he is like most Union apologists, simply trying to justify what was done by making sh*t up.
Hardly
Oh, and a quick glance spotted the words "Star of the West." For a long time I thought this was a legitimate example of the South being the belligerent party, but last November, someone pointed out that the "Star of the West" was on a secret mission to move troops (250 federal troops) and munitions into Ft. Sumter, and was therefore a bellicose effort.
By that logic, what oath was Lee under at the start of the civil war?
He resigned from the U.S. Army when Virginia seceded.
So not getting your point?
That's another reason why I'm not going to spend much time with you. No matter what I show to be absolutely correct, you will simply claim it is not dispositive.
The South did not "rebel", nor did they engage in "Insurrection." They exercised the God given right as articulated in the Declaration of Independence to leave a government which they no longer felt served their interests.
wbarmy, I wish you would drop the Army from your name. I am a retired Army Field Grade Officer and you besmirch and disgrace our service with your comments.
Please feeeeeeeeeeeel free to spend ZERO time with me. Your lies, fabrications, and distortions won’t be missed.
250 troops on the Star of the West? Also found out that the public had learned that the ship was carrying troops before it even arrived!
I guess someone had to be the dolt who was unaware of that - seeing as how it is in all the books. Looks like the dolt is you.
BTW: On what date did Lincoln assume office?
Uh yea. He did. Lol.
Explained it very plainly and simply.
Another one.....SMH
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