Posted on 01/26/2019 7:26:45 PM PST by Mechanicos
A new PTSD protocol promised a 90 percent success rate without drugs and only a few hours of therapy.
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I worked for the VA for 30+ years, the last 15 years was spent rating disability claims. I NEVER saw anyone with PTSD get “better” only worse in spite of all their treatment. But, interestingly enough, once they reached the magic 100 percent permanent and total mark, presto, they were never seen at the VAMC for treatment, and we rarely ever heard from them.
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If this is for real then great! The people suffering from PTSD deserve every shot at living as normal a life as possible.
I agree with George Carlin, If they still called PTSD, “Shell Shock”, the veterans would have gotten more help.
Very good question. I had seen six or more of my Montagnards blown to pieces with intestines exposed twice from incoming. I preferred combat OPS hunting the enemy as my yards knew the jungle and mountains. I had a number of KIA and WIA on OPS, but; the daily incoming at Duc Co when I was Launch Officer made my stomach a wreck plus I admit to anxiety. I think we just have to deal with it. Yes, I had panic attacks with BP 190/170. I do not think about war these days as I think about the Bible.
Thanks for your concern. His first
four years were with the 701st MSB,
Army, in Tikrit, Iraq. 2001-2005.
Lead convoy, logistics.
His second tour was with the Big Red
One, in Mosul, Iraq, 2006-2009.
on the Ma Duce, Although I don’t
remember what his MOS was then.
I’ve seen him tear up once talking
about Mosul. Something about little
kids getting blown to bits. (Not by
the US).
This is a no brainer. I’ve been demonstrating and promoting this for many years.
The emotional subconscious that creates the difficult symptoms can not tell the difference between imagination and reality. Thus active positive imagination resolves the origin of the PTSD in minutes.
I do this in front of groups without the person saying one word. I have person pull in the memory of a traumatic experience with intense emotion, often causing tears to flow. By guiding their consciousness in a positive pattern it removes the negative emotion attached to the perceptual programming event. Gone permanently in minutes.
Yes, it’s all about facing the problem so it does have a high probability of working. Not really new but maybe it’s new that doctors are doing something that works. I read a book about a similar treatment over 35 years ago.
If your son was a combat veteran my support, and heart, and dollars, are with him. I was in theater but was not a combat veteran. I am disgusted by the money grubbing pussy PTSD fraud and you might be, too.
“So why don’t all these moviegoers have PTSD?”
The difference is what happens in the brain. Watching a faux traumatic event knowing in your head that you are safe is nothing like experiencing a traumatic event fearing you are going to die. The latter activates a survival response which is like flip that’s been switched ‘on’, and after the danger has passed the switch keeps flickering to ‘on’ even though it’s no longer needed.
Basically, a counselor has you play the traumatic scene as a movie in your head, over and over.
The reason you find it odd is because you are ignorant, and I don’t mean that as an insult. During training I received in the military we where shown videos of WW2 vets doing group therapy for PTSD in the 80s. They had it but back then the VA didn’t give service connected for it. These veterans talked about night terrors and isolating themselves from people or throwing themselves into their work to distract themselves from their problems. Or even worse self medicating with alcohol or drugs.
It was Vietnam veterans that fought and finally got it recognized by the VA as an actual condition.
If you really want to see some upsetting footage go on YouTube and look up the French films of WW1 vets suffering from shell shock, which is what PTSD was called in WW1.
Anything is better than handing out drugs like candy.
PSTD is not just a Veteran’s issue. I live it nightly in nightmares, does some idiot think I want to relive it during the day too? I am the Mother of a Viciously Murdered Child by a Sociopath who ambushed and beat him to death with a 2 ft section of Fence Post, just for the jollies to see what it felt like to kill. 6 parole hearing to eke out 10.5 yrs of a 20 yr sentence. You never forget or ‘get over it’. I see it in 3D way to many times in nightmares.
I wouldn't characterize what I was experiencing when going to work as panic attacks, but I would start feeling anxious, my blood pressure was getting out of control, my stomach hurt all the time, and I went years without having a nice solid BM. I almost died because I didn't go to the hospital until my appendix had been ruptured for a week, because nothing felt that much worse to me than normal. After I retired everything started getting better.
GailA,
My heart goes out to you. You are in my Prayers.
I was in this program for awhile. It did not help me one bit. In fact I felt worse while attending the sessions.
You have a valid point, but this varies a great deal from individual to individual I agree that there is a difference between experiencing something in real life and watching it on a movie screen. There are many of us who have dangerous “hobbies” largely because we start out at least as thrill seekers.
For example I always have loved roller coasters and was also an avid hang glider pilot. I have jumped off of cliffs under less than optimal conditions when the threat of dying was quite real. I knew that the roller coasters were actually very safe, yet the sensation for my brain wasn't that much different.
I also had close calls at work where it was only by the Grace of God that I returned home the next day. I also responded to ugly scenes that rivaled some of the most graphic special effects in movies. And then there were heart breaking situations. I could go on and on, yet most didn't leave me feeling all that shaken up at the time. For me it was a cumulative effect that started catching up with me after a while, so I don't know or care if that could be called PTSD or if it would just be classified as plain old anxiety. In my case it meant only that it was a good idea to retire when I became eligible.
My father-in-law joined the army in 1938 and was a combat veteran of WWII and Korea and served during the Vietnam era. He had some really bad problems that we label now as PTSD. He self medicated with heavy drinking for a long time. After he gave up drinking he started beating the hell out of his wife and kids. He was actually could be quite dangerous to others in any type of confrontation. He also had bad reactions to any type of loud noise.
I think at this point in time we have an issue with a lot of people claiming to have PTSD to get benefits or for other ulterior motives. Everyone wants to be a victim these days. So you have people who have really gone through hell with real problems like my father-in-law. And actually even people like my step grandfather who I know suffered quietly after his terrible experiences in WWII. But then you have a whole lot of people claiming to be disabled because they had one scary experience at some time and this is just plain BS.
BM
Thank you. Yes he was in theater, in
combat.
His PTSD is coupled with a TBI.
He is difficult to live with some days.
Also you are correct, there are those
who play their service for as much as
they can get.
My son seems to be able to tell rather
quickly who the fraudsters are.
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