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Army testing 1000-mile ‘super gun’ that can be used to strike Chinese targets without retaliation
thenationalsentinel.com ^ | January 25, 2019 | Staff

Posted on 01/25/2019 9:55:01 AM PST by Red Badger

The U.S. Army is continuing development of a so-called “super gun” artillery piece capable of sending projectiles 1,000 miles downrange, or more than far enough to be free of counterbattery fire from existing enemy guns.

Top service officials say the new gun, when fully developed and deployed, would be able to attack targets in and around China, including Beijing’s bases on the South China Sea islands, well out of range of Chinese defenses.

“You can imagine a scenario where the Navy feels that it cannot get into the South China Sea because of Chinese naval vessels, or whatever,” Army Secretary Mark Esper said during a media roundtable earlier this week.

“We can – from a fixed location, on an island or some other place – engage enemy targets, naval targets, at great distances and maintain our standoff and yet open the door, if you will, for naval assets or Marine assets,” he added.

Testing with extended-range artillery is part of the service’s aim to incorporate hypersonic technology into new weapons systems in which the Pentagon chose some years ago not to weaponize. That’s changing now as near-peer competitors like China and Russia develop and field their own hypersonic delivery systems for both conventional and nuclear warheads.

Task & Purpose asked Esper why the Army believes it needs artillery pieces that can fire shells up to 1,000 miles; he responded by saying that the military has a mission requirement to outrage enemy guns.

“You want to be outside the range that they can hit you,” Esper said.

“Why was the spear developed? Because the other guy had a sword. A spear gives you range,” he said. “Why was the sling developed? Because the spear closed off the range of the sword. You want to always have standoff where you can strike without being struck back. That’s what extended-range cannon artillery gives us, case in point vis-à-vis the Russians.”

In testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee in April 2016, U.S. Army Chief of Staff General Mark Milley was asked if the U.S. military was outranged or outgunned by any potential adversary.

“Yes … the ones in Europe, really Russia. We don’t like it, we don’t want it, but yes, technically [we are] outranged, outgunned on the ground,” he said.

Last year, reports noted that the Army was developing a new prototype Extended Ranger Cannon Artillery weapon that had a larger-caliber tube and new grooves designed to hang weights for gravity adjustments, really just a modified M777A2 mobile gun.

Officials noted that the modifications increased the weapon’s range from about 30 km (18 miles) to about 70 km (43 miles).

That said, a senior Army official told Warrior Maven, “Just because I can shoot farther, that does not mean I solve the issue. I have to acquire the right target. We want to be able to hit moving targets and targets obscured by uneven terrain.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Military/Veterans; Science
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To: RinaseaofDs

Gerald Bull was a very brilliant engineer who designed, built and tested artillery for the Canadian, and eventually for the American military. As missile technology improved, his research programmes were cancelled. Seeking money for research, he was hired by Saddam Hussein to build a gun capable of firing shells into Israel. Though warned to stop, he didn’t, and was killed, most likely by Mossad.

Bull was brilliant but like many other prodigies, was extremely naive about other things. While working on military projects, his real desire was to launch satellites (and possibly manned spacecraft) into orbit via guns. He did not understand how such a weapon could endanger peach in the ME, and how Israel would do everything to stop such a development. His naiveté cost him his life.


41 posted on 01/25/2019 10:50:37 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Sorry, ‘peach’ should be ‘PEACE’.


42 posted on 01/25/2019 10:52:05 AM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: Red Badger

Sounds expensive, trying to outsmart Newton’s laws. Maybe stealthy drones could provide a platform.


43 posted on 01/25/2019 11:00:13 AM PST by lurk
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To: Red Badger

This is nonsense.

There will never be a “gun” that shoots 1,000 miles and hits its target.

The system must be powered post-launch and maneuverable.


44 posted on 01/25/2019 11:03:32 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Never say ‘never’.......................


45 posted on 01/25/2019 11:09:32 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Red Badger

“We want to be able to hit moving targets and targets obscured by uneven terrain.”

LOL. Aliens travel here from faraway galaxies, and THEY can’t even hit a moving target! >8-p


46 posted on 01/25/2019 11:49:34 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: AppyPappy

That’s right. And they improve much of it, especially jet fighters.


47 posted on 01/25/2019 1:00:39 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: AppyPappy

Iron Dome missiles

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Other FReepers disagree with you. What say you now? There is nothing that can shoot down artillery.


48 posted on 01/25/2019 1:03:55 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: NorthMountain
... We should have kept him working for us so he wouldn't go work for bad guys, if for no other reason...

The real problem was that he was months from putting something into orbit. And the rocket guys kept having failures. He would have beaten them if they had not pulled his funding.

And, even worse, his program was cheap .

Of course it doesn't scale up the way rockets do, but at that time popular opinion was not going to see that. The rocket guys were afraid of being shut down

49 posted on 01/25/2019 1:35:04 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Mariner
...There will never be a “gun” that shoots 1,000 miles and hits its target.

The system must be powered post-launch and maneuverable...

We are closer than you think. We already have powered post-launch and maneuverable. We just can't reach out 1000 miles yet.

50 posted on 01/25/2019 1:47:54 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

My point is that would not be a “gun”.

It would be a powered cruise missile launched from a gun barrel.


51 posted on 01/25/2019 1:51:30 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: CurlyDave
The real problem was that he was months from putting something into orbit.

Would be a great way to put cubesats in orbit.

52 posted on 01/25/2019 2:00:10 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: laplata

The system is designed to intercept and destroy short-range rockets and artillery shells fired from distances of 4 kilometres (2.5 mi) to 70 kilometres (43 mi) away and whose trajectory would take them to a populated area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Dome


53 posted on 01/25/2019 2:53:48 PM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: AppyPappy

Thanks.


54 posted on 01/25/2019 3:29:40 PM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Red Badger

Why not simply use smart rockets which have already been invented? Aren’t they cheaper?


55 posted on 01/25/2019 3:49:19 PM PST by wildbill
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To: Red Badger

Someone was on drugs when they wrote this. An effort to get to 100 nm would be significant.


56 posted on 01/25/2019 5:19:45 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: wildbill

You know the Army.

If it ain’t expensive they don’t want it!...............


57 posted on 01/28/2019 6:25:29 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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To: Revolutionary

LOL!.................100 nm to ME is 100 NANO-METERS!....................


58 posted on 01/28/2019 6:32:13 AM PST by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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