Posted on 12/17/2018 6:05:52 PM PST by Kenny Bania
Chivalry might be dead, but many women still welcome it when a man holds a door or picks up the check. While more than 77% of people in one survey thought a man should pay for a first date, women may see the gesture as a patronizing deal-breaker, especially as society wrestles more than ever with the power dynamic between the sexes.
But now there’s evidence that women — even committed feminists — interpret paying for dinner and holding doors as signs that a man is husband material. Interestingly, these women are fully aware that a man who engages in this “benevolent sexism” could also be the type of guy who undermines women and tries to control them, a recent study published in the journal Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin found.
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“I have been married forever. Haven’t picked up the check in years.”
Me either. I would prefer not to know how much it costs - I can’t stand eating out, but my wife likes to. Now I just need to get her to figure out the tip on her own!
Gets an apology: "I'm sorry ma'am, I mistook you for a lady!"
There is no kind of man who doesn’t try to undermine women and try to control them. Just like there’s no kind of woman who doesn’t try to undermine men and try to control them.
I hold the door for others as I was taught at the age of 4.
I open the car door for my wife...and sometimes my daughters ...as I was taught at the age of 7 (when I could open the heavy things)
I remove my hat indoors (lest I have to buy a round - or get whopped upside the head by dad)
I try not to forget - please and thank you
I say “Merry Christmas” and happily usually get one back or at least a twinkling smile
Anyone who doesn’t like my actions and words - Sorry how I was raised and I intend to ensure my grandkids are the same
Any woman who makes a stink over the guy picking up the check deems herself not worthy of a second date. Consequently, any man who expects the woman to pick up the tab on a first date deems himself not worth of a second one.
I think that's called checks and balances.
a man who engages in this “benevolent sexism” could also be the type of guy who undermines women
I don’t mind at all when the check is picked up, a chair is pulled out or a door is held. I don’t even mind a cat call.
“ Yes, yes that will be fine and the lady will just have water - no ice “
“Any woman offended by my holding the door or paying for dinner can get bent.”
I’m with you brother. If she is offended she is not for me. My last girlfriend was a Lib. I think she ended up appreciating it.
I also find most woman don’t know the dance when you hold the door for them.
Easy cheat-cheat tip math:
10% of the total, then double it. Yeah, the 20% includes on the tax, but it’s nice to tip well. I worked in restaurants too once.
pound me too has led to MGTOW
The trick is to get her boozed up enough to run her mouth about how much she hates it when her date patronizes her by picking up the check. It's particularly good if I've picked her up at her door, I can just leave her at the restaurant, since she's so good at taking care of herself. Online dating services stink, but it's not a bad idea to start a Yelp page to rate the dates.
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My wife has trained me from the start, of course, to not only to get the check with her, but also to pay if we have any younger people with us, her friends, nephews, nieces, or elderly. Its our role/responsibility as both mentors to the younger generation, and respect to our elders. We can split the check with peers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXY6fQUDr3o
A man should open the door. Women are the weaker sex, no question. When it comes to paying the check, women should pay. After all, they’re demanding equality in the workplace and taking the high paying jobs (while the men still often do the heavy lifting). I think it’s a fair trade.
I hate this war between the sexes. I don’t want to be weak little wifey deferring to the Big Man, but I sure hate men being so angry at all women because some are bitches. Some of us are not. And yeah, whoever invites whomever should pay for that first meal, but if one of the couple has more money,then they should probably find a way to pay or find a way to make the situation more comfortable. I don’t think men should always automatically pay.
A couple of weeks ago, within a week, I experienced 3 acts of gallantry I hadn’t seen in a long time. But now I can remember only two of them. One was a 19-year-old who offered me his hand to help me step over some rocks. The other was a man about my age (late 60s-early 70s) who has ALS. It was at a neighborhood Xmas party. Any time a woman came to sit down at the table or got up to leave, this gentleman would stand (and it was a bit of a struggle for him).
I’ve never been on a date where I didn’t pay for everything.
I see both sides of the battles. I have four sisters, have two daughters, and there are lots of females in both sides of the family. When I say women are the weaker sex, I'm talking about brute strength, upper body strength, heavy lifting etc. Much easier for the guy to do the heavy lifting while many women often can't. I've been in jobs where the women demand the same pay as me, but want me to pick up and install stuff that is supposed to be part of the job duties but they can't or won't - not fair to me.
On the other hand, I see a lot of lazy good-for-nothing guys in the younger generations where the women are smarter and work harder. Both my daughters make real good pay, several times what their men make. They can afford to pick up the check and often do.
“But now there’s evidence that women — even committed feminists — interpret paying for dinner and holding doors as signs that a man is husband material.”
Since when do “committed feminists” consider a male “husband material?”
Same here. I don't know what planet the writers of the article are living on or what age they are.
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