Posted on 12/17/2018 3:17:03 PM PST by CincyRichieRich
Folks, we are at a cross roads...there are no Hannity, Rush, or Beck bombshells to help PDJT. The Fed does its thing tomorrow, and I am not hopeful of Powell backing off a rate hike. The market is being pushed down by hedge fund managers (not little ones, BIG billionaire ones), Steyer, Soros, Buffet (yes, him, too), the Fed, etc.
They will raise rates and we'll be tanking for more days on end, and, some Freepers will say it's just over-valued and continue to pretend.
Does anyone think the market isn't being tanked to prepare for 2020?
Let's say Justice Roberts was blackmailed.
Let's say many congressmen were blackmailed after the unmasking, bugging by Obama, NSA, etc.
Let's say Sessions was threatened.
Let's say Jerome Powell gets threatened by a paid fixer from one of the aforementioned Soros-esque outfits.
To whom will Powell go for justice, protection and such?
The FBI? The DOJ?
Really???
Unless PDJT has some trump cards/aces in the hole, I don't see how we get back to him being on top...right now, I am deeply troubled.
The FED has a huge stick for leverage. They bought billions in stock with the Quantitative Easy they used to prop up the failing market so as tro make Obumme not look like a failure. Now they are sell off those positions and putting downward pressure and a rate hike is the cherry on top in order to torpedo Trump.
tagged for later especially since my Morgan Stanley account, which I only opened mid last year, is lackluster at best.
Adjust that ‘98 figure for inflation.
You are professionally engaged in managing investment dollars for other people? For 30 yrs?
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No, investing with 2 pros for 30 and almost got licensed along the way. You still avoided what I said. I don’t care how many letters are after your name. We have not had this before.
..... Democrats and Never Trumpers have a limitless supply of friends in Low Places to help make this happen .... They will use all of their resources to insure Trump cannot secure a second term
Cincy....
You didn’t answer my question.
Do you hold a license as a professional investment adviser or not?
If they had 2020 in nind, they would be pumping the market now. Or at pumping it in early 2020 so they can crash it in August of 2020.
Love to hear your perspective of 2007 to 2009. I lived that. My strange preoccupation is studying that period, as it is the one that did in my company.
30 years and you dont remember 32 years ago! 1986?
Bueller. Bueller......
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Oh good grief..in 1986 we had hair trigger algorithms run by billionaires and who hate PDJT? 3.7% unemployment? Stop comparing Apple’s and oranges.
Good point.
Ok, thanks for finally answering and being honest.
You sound like a do it yourself investor that is on the wrong side of an aggressive trade that has gone wrong.
I’ve been licensed since 92. I’m a prolific reader of financial history. I’ve done billions in trades, and I’ve successfully beaten the largest financial institution in the world in court. Ok, there’s my cred..
This market really isn’t that big a deal. We’ve had a big move from 2009 and right now there is a massive push to do window dressing and tax loss sales here at year end.
The market owes nobody any sort of explanation. That is why it works...
I was an Advisor at WAMU back then with a very large clientele. It was “fascinating”. And other f words too...
You might as well jump.
Its got a bunch more to go down. Most of the S&P is already in Bear territory. Home building sucks.
The demographic shift in America is moving along quite fast. The greatest money transfers in history is just about complete. All of the wealth saved during the last fifty years has gone into the nursing home business.
Its the fourth turning.
War is coming. The break up of the US. In fact this shut down will turn into the end of the USA as we know it. The Saudis will start selling oil for Euros . The dollar will collapse. Gold skyrockets. Your pension is worthless.
And Trump gets herpes.
Its the end of the world as we know it. And we feel fine.
I hope that makes you feel better.
Oh yeah the feds want a crash.
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You are ignorant as a rock. Look.at what the Fed is comprised of...PhD academics who worship Clinton and Obama. I sat in on a Cleveland Rd lecture when Obama was reigning...it was pure fantasy. Grow up.
Just remember the five hundred billion in two hours run on the money market in 2008.
This scummy crap has been done before, will happen again.
It would be significantly less if you compound. I would have to go back to my fin math book to figure that out.
Cincy....
You didnt answer my question.
Do you hold a license as a professional investment adviser or not?
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No sir, I do not...I would fire you. I don’t trust folks who hide behind titles and letters. I’ve known plenty of book smart idiots. Those investment advisors who leave the variable out of their equations known as political effect are not very street smart. Pat yourself on your own back, won’t come from me.
Oh yeah the feds want a crash.
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You are ignorant as a rock. Look.at what the Fed is comprised of...PhD academics who worship Clinton and Obama. I sat in on a Cleveland Rd lecture when Obama was reigning...it was pure fantasy. Grow up.
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Sorry, realized you might be agreeing with me.
DJIA was running around 100 in 1920.
Since then, its average rate of return is about 5.75%.
Just remember the five hundred billion in two hours run on the money market in 2008.
This scummy crap has been done before, will happen again.
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That was different.
That 2008 was idiots who bough on margin being called and losing their shirts. This is not that.
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