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Anyone Have Their Head in the Sand Still? (Market is Being Pushed Down)
12-17-18 | Self

Posted on 12/17/2018 3:17:03 PM PST by CincyRichieRich

Folks, we are at a cross roads...there are no Hannity, Rush, or Beck bombshells to help PDJT. The Fed does its thing tomorrow, and I am not hopeful of Powell backing off a rate hike. The market is being pushed down by hedge fund managers (not little ones, BIG billionaire ones), Steyer, Soros, Buffet (yes, him, too), the Fed, etc.

They will raise rates and we'll be tanking for more days on end, and, some Freepers will say it's just over-valued and continue to pretend.

Does anyone think the market isn't being tanked to prepare for 2020?

Let's say Justice Roberts was blackmailed.

Let's say many congressmen were blackmailed after the unmasking, bugging by Obama, NSA, etc.

Let's say Sessions was threatened.

Let's say Jerome Powell gets threatened by a paid fixer from one of the aforementioned Soros-esque outfits.

To whom will Powell go for justice, protection and such?

The FBI? The DOJ?

Really???

Unless PDJT has some trump cards/aces in the hole, I don't see how we get back to him being on top...right now, I am deeply troubled.


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KEYWORDS: 4dchess; artofthedeal; correction; hedge; paranoia; paranoid; soros; trump; trusttheplan; vanity
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To: CincyRichieRich

The FED has a huge stick for leverage. They bought billions in stock with the Quantitative Easy they used to prop up the failing market so as tro make Obumme not look like a failure. Now they are sell off those positions and putting downward pressure and a rate hike is the cherry on top in order to torpedo Trump.


41 posted on 12/17/2018 3:51:24 PM PST by WP Lonestar (No matter where you go, there you are)
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To: Professional

tagged for later especially since my Morgan Stanley account, which I only opened mid last year, is lackluster at best.


42 posted on 12/17/2018 3:52:35 PM PST by LouAvul (The most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.)
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To: Still Thinking

Adjust that ‘98 figure for inflation.


43 posted on 12/17/2018 3:53:45 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Professional

You are professionally engaged in managing investment dollars for other people? For 30 yrs?
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No, investing with 2 pros for 30 and almost got licensed along the way. You still avoided what I said. I don’t care how many letters are after your name. We have not had this before.


44 posted on 12/17/2018 3:54:03 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (PDJT, please re-teach the nation that crony capitalism is not capitalism!)
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To: CincyRichieRich
...... I have been predicting the economy will continue to falter more into the "Negative Gain" territory before we see the New Year..... Guaranteeing that Trump will lose his "Master and Creator of a Powerful, Growing and Booming Economy" moniker for his first two years .... YUP...... Just in time for the upcoming 2020 elections.

..... Democrats and Never Trumpers have a limitless supply of friends in Low Places to help make this happen .... They will use all of their resources to insure Trump cannot secure a second term

45 posted on 12/17/2018 3:55:05 PM PST by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: CincyRichieRich

Cincy....

You didn’t answer my question.

Do you hold a license as a professional investment adviser or not?


46 posted on 12/17/2018 3:55:28 PM PST by Professional
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To: CincyRichieRich

If they had 2020 in nind, they would be pumping the market now. Or at pumping it in early 2020 so they can crash it in August of 2020.


47 posted on 12/17/2018 3:56:25 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Professional

Love to hear your perspective of 2007 to 2009. I lived that. My strange preoccupation is studying that period, as it is the one that did in my company.


48 posted on 12/17/2018 3:57:15 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: lurked_for_a_decade

30 years and you don’t remember 32 years ago! 1986?
Bueller. Bueller......
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Oh good grief..in 1986 we had hair trigger algorithms run by billionaires and who hate PDJT? 3.7% unemployment? Stop comparing Apple’s and oranges.


49 posted on 12/17/2018 3:57:38 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (PDJT, please re-teach the nation that crony capitalism is not capitalism!)
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To: central_va

Good point.


50 posted on 12/17/2018 3:58:05 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Ok, thanks for finally answering and being honest.

You sound like a do it yourself investor that is on the wrong side of an aggressive trade that has gone wrong.

I’ve been licensed since 92. I’m a prolific reader of financial history. I’ve done billions in trades, and I’ve successfully beaten the largest financial institution in the world in court. Ok, there’s my cred..

This market really isn’t that big a deal. We’ve had a big move from 2009 and right now there is a massive push to do window dressing and tax loss sales here at year end.

The market owes nobody any sort of explanation. That is why it works...


51 posted on 12/17/2018 3:58:32 PM PST by Professional
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To: RinaseaofDs

I was an Advisor at WAMU back then with a very large clientele. It was “fascinating”. And other f words too...


52 posted on 12/17/2018 3:59:55 PM PST by Professional
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To: CincyRichieRich

You might as well jump.

It’s got a bunch more to go down. Most of the S&P is already in Bear territory. Home building sucks.

The demographic shift in America is moving along quite fast. The greatest money transfers in history is just about complete. All of the wealth saved during the last fifty years has gone into the nursing home business.

It’s the fourth turning.

War is coming. The break up of the US. In fact this shut down will turn into the end of the USA as we know it. The Saudis will start selling oil for Euros . The dollar will collapse. Gold skyrockets. Your pension is worthless.

And Trump gets herpes.

It’s the end of the world as we know it. And we feel fine.

I hope that makes you feel better.


53 posted on 12/17/2018 4:01:14 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: central_va

Oh yeah the feds want a crash.
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You are ignorant as a rock. Look.at what the Fed is comprised of...PhD academics who worship Clinton and Obama. I sat in on a Cleveland Rd lecture when Obama was reigning...it was pure fantasy. Grow up.


54 posted on 12/17/2018 4:02:13 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (PDJT, please re-teach the nation that crony capitalism is not capitalism!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Just remember the five hundred billion in two hours run on the money market in 2008.
This scummy crap has been done before, will happen again.


55 posted on 12/17/2018 4:04:42 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Still Thinking

It would be significantly less if you compound. I would have to go back to my fin math book to figure that out.


56 posted on 12/17/2018 4:04:46 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Professional

Cincy....

You didn’t answer my question.

Do you hold a license as a professional investment adviser or not?

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No sir, I do not...I would fire you. I don’t trust folks who hide behind titles and letters. I’ve known plenty of book smart idiots. Those investment advisors who leave the variable out of their equations known as political effect are not very street smart. Pat yourself on your own back, won’t come from me.


57 posted on 12/17/2018 4:07:26 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (PDJT, please re-teach the nation that crony capitalism is not capitalism!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

Oh yeah the feds want a crash.
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You are ignorant as a rock. Look.at what the Fed is comprised of...PhD academics who worship Clinton and Obama. I sat in on a Cleveland Rd lecture when Obama was reigning...it was pure fantasy. Grow up.
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Sorry, realized you might be agreeing with me.


58 posted on 12/17/2018 4:08:47 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (PDJT, please re-teach the nation that crony capitalism is not capitalism!)
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To: sparklite2

DJIA was running around 100 in 1920.

Since then, its average rate of return is about 5.75%.


59 posted on 12/17/2018 4:10:14 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Darksheare

Just remember the five hundred billion in two hours run on the money market in 2008.
This scummy crap has been done before, will happen again.
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That was different.
That 2008 was idiots who bough on margin being called and losing their shirts. This is not that.


60 posted on 12/17/2018 4:10:34 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (PDJT, please re-teach the nation that crony capitalism is not capitalism!)
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