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‘You pulled a gun in front of my kids over a mattress,’ man says before he’s shot dead(VIDEO)
Star-Telegram ^ | September 20, 2018 12:57 PM | By Domingo Ramirez Jr.

Posted on 09/21/2018 5:51:03 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus

Box released the video to let residents know exactly what happened that morning.

Box said they had moved to that Abilene home in April, but they had never talked to the Millers until the morning of Sept. 1. The Millers were next-door neighbors.

“We had thrown out a twin mattress in a dumpster in our alley a few days before the shooting,” Box said. “You have to have the mattress in the dumpster or they will not haul it away.”

On the morning of Sept. 1, Box and Howard were in the backyard when they saw the mattress was on their property. Howard tossed it back in the dumpster.

Box said that’s when John Miller came to the alley, pulled the mattress out of the dumpster and tossed it back on Howard’s property.

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Disturbing video to say the least.
1 posted on 09/21/2018 5:51:03 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Plenty of stupid to go around here.

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2 posted on 09/21/2018 5:56:26 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus
Whose dumpster was it? Seems the Boxes helped themselves to someone else's dumpster. Were they that stupid? Miller family wasn't too bright either. Shooting someone over what is a civil matter is idiotic; why waste your life in jail?
 
3 posted on 09/21/2018 5:57:51 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ("Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.")
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To: Ronald_Magnus

Maybe the video explains it but why did the Millers keep pulling the mattress out of the dumpster?


4 posted on 09/21/2018 5:58:45 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Lurker

I saw this video. The two idiots must hang.


5 posted on 09/21/2018 6:00:40 AM PDT by DarthVader ("The biggest misconception on Free Republic is that the Deep State is invulnerable")
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I;m guessing it was a community dumpster that the surrounding neighbors pay a monthly fee to use. I’m also guessing the Millers didn’t like the mattresses taking up all the room in the dumpster, but evidently that was the proper way to dispose of them.


6 posted on 09/21/2018 6:04:03 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

That was all so unnecessary. Over a damn trashed mattress for COL.


7 posted on 09/21/2018 6:07:56 AM PDT by tflabo (Varmints)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

OK, I think the Millers are going to jail. Not for shooting the dead guy. But for putting the gun to the head of others at the party. That is against the law. And you can do time for that.

It seems the Millers have a few issues. First they were in their neighbors yard. Its ok to warn someone that they have lethal force. And to make sure they keep a distance. But that does not give you the right to threaten. And to put someone’s life in danger. Or even to come into someone’s yard.

But if the story is accurate. A bigger man who is angry and wields a baseball bat, is a threat. And you can blow him away if he approaches after a warning.


8 posted on 09/21/2018 6:09:55 AM PDT by poinq
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To: DarthVader

3 lives ended — the victim and the 2 perps.

The gun grabbers will run with this one, even though NO sane gun owner would arm themselves due to a rubbish confrontation.

The perps will get life at the very least as it was 100% verbal until they opened fire.

At least that is what I saw but the camera moved to where we could not see exactly what started the shooting.


9 posted on 09/21/2018 6:15:01 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

I’m confused. Did Box spring from a mattress?


10 posted on 09/21/2018 6:17:31 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: freedumb2003

You can see the older Miller flinching and holding his arm up in a defensive move as the camera moves. Probably in response to an attack by Howard. I think they will walk after the facts come out.


11 posted on 09/21/2018 6:23:29 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: freedumb2003; Ronald_Magnus

More to the point, did Box spring from the mattress, or did he have a twin?


12 posted on 09/21/2018 6:26:24 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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The story did say Howard’s brother handed a baseball bat to him. Howard might have raised it up to hit the elder Miller.


13 posted on 09/21/2018 6:29:03 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Whose dumpster was it?

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Article doesn’t say but it appears to be a community dumpster that
they all pay a fee to use. I don’t know what the rules of use are as
to what can be thrown in it. Large items such as a mattress may have
other rules for disposal.


14 posted on 09/21/2018 6:39:40 AM PDT by deport
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To: Ronald_Magnus

LOL, we have the same kind of problem over dumpsters in our condo. The next door unit is closer to our end of the building, and the units in our building sometimes find it easier to use the closest one. The other building’s residents are very possessive of “Their” dumpster. The garbage is picked up under the condo association budget, but there have been altercations at the dumpster over the invasion of trash from the unit next door. What a world we have become.


15 posted on 09/21/2018 6:48:09 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (What is earned is treasured, what is free is worth what you paid for it.)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

From the video I can tell this isn’t the most cosmopolitan part of Abilene Texas...


16 posted on 09/21/2018 6:55:06 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Ronald_Magnus

BKMRK for later


17 posted on 09/21/2018 6:56:48 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: poinq

Agreed about the guy in the orange shirt, but if you continue firing when the man is down you mean to kill him and are no longer protecting yourself. I count the four shots two of which are from the 12ga. the guy was surely down and no threat when the four shot was fired and most likely down after the first two shotgun blast.


18 posted on 09/21/2018 7:07:08 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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“More to the point, did Box spring from the mattress, or did he have a twin?”

You just had to Double up on the silliness. However, I vote you King of cleverness.


19 posted on 09/21/2018 7:15:22 AM PDT by moovova
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“More to the point, did Box spring from the mattress, or did he have a twin?”

You just had to Double up on the silliness. However, I vote you King of cleverness.<<

I rip my tag off in salute!

Which will no doubt be used against me if I ever am nominated for SCOTUS.


20 posted on 09/21/2018 7:18:08 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (As always IMHO)
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