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The author has put forth a cogent explanation, in six key points, as to why the "QAnon" phenomenon is a perilous path to pursue. I completely agree with his summation.
1 posted on 09/14/2018 8:53:50 PM PDT by JME_FAN
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From the CatheQism:

Q. What must we do to save our souls?

A. To save our souls, we must worship Q by faith, hope, and charity; that is, we must believe in Q, hope in Q, and love Q with all our heart.
 

55 posted on 09/14/2018 10:07:24 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ("Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.")
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"Q has brought out the very worst in some it's followers, prompting them to attack any non-believers viciously."

This has been one of my biggest gripes about Qanon. Any expressions of doubt or skepticism (let alone, ridicule) trigger violent responses from the faithful.

Most non-believers steer clear of their nightly 'safe space' thread for precisely that reason. Who wants to be beat up by a gang of wild eyed fanatics for merely expressing their opinion? Forget it.

65 posted on 09/14/2018 10:19:15 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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Well I suppose you’re ready to go censor all that Q talk and fringe cult, aren’t ya? Yep, you are.

And I’ll bet you’d like to see Q and all that Q following locked up or warned to shut up. Yep, you would.

And what does that make you?

You don’t need to answer as it’s already clear to anyone with a modicum of grey matter between the ears what you are.


78 posted on 09/14/2018 10:32:12 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V (Proud Member of the Deranged Q Fringe))
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Cogent? No.

Just wait, when the plan’s complete, you all are gonna be so, dumbfounded. You guys see what’s on the surface, but you are missing out. I am THAT confident that Q deniers are gonna have profound regrets.

Deniers will buy the book Trump writes and read all about it, but we lived it with him & Q.


95 posted on 09/14/2018 10:49:42 PM PDT by Lopeover (POTUS needs Republicans, the Midterm Election is about allegiance to the America First agenda!)
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To put a finer point on it, “Q” is not a conspiracy theory. Most of the information he posts is in the public domain. Its government documents available if you know about them, and press reports publicly available.

Some of the people who follow and post about Q try to fill in the blanks with their own conspiracy theories, and people conflate those with what Q is saying. Those theories range from the probable to the nutty, and for a lot of people, when they think of Q, they think of the stuff those people are posting.

Ignore that stuff, and just follow the links given, which are all in the public domain, and you’ll have a better idea what is going on than the average bear. I notice more and more Q’s stuff is starting to bleed into the mainstream news, but without attribution.


96 posted on 09/14/2018 10:51:14 PM PDT by marron
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Carpe Donktum is a buzzkiller.

Q is Nostradamus.

If half of freeperdom wants to interpret the daily chicken entrails of Q I say more power to them in their venerable practice of haruspicy.

I find Q’s oracular pronouncements impenetrable, but I don’t see why we oughta burn the Q cult at the stake.


122 posted on 09/14/2018 11:47:31 PM PDT by Pelham (Yankeefa, cleansing America one statue at a time.)
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The premise that Q is a danger to the Trump presidency is absurd. Obviously, if Q is real and working in tandem with President Trump my comment is obvious. So for the points below lets assume that Q is independent of Trump. What do we know for sure.

A. Understanding Trump. First of all we know that the MSM characterization of Trump is patently false. He is very strategic with long term planning. He is also very aware of the news as he is a master showman who wants to control the message. The possibility that Trump is unaware of Q is nil.

B. So if Trump is aware of Q why does he not debunk it if he is not associated with Q? I think there are 2 main reasons.
(i) The first reason was discussed in a tweet from Imperator Rex (See the thread on the pinned tweet from July 8 at the top of his tweets. This is a great read - if you haven't read it you should it is well worth it - q is primarily discussed on item numbers 10 -19.) The key concept is that the research that is being performed by the anons in relation to the Q comments effectively has a research staff of 1000’s at no cost. Imperator Rex says this is genius.
(ii) The other reason is that the comments are all pro Trump and anti deep state. This point of view has not waivered. Almost all of us are aware of the sedition against the President and the crimes perpetrated by the cast of characters - Clinton, Comey, Strock, Brennan, McCabe, etc. Q has helped to red pill this awareness to many. This awareness is critical to bringing down the deep state. If Q is phony it is not from the left who would want to do everything to prevent this awareness.
Both items (i) and (ii) greatly benefit Trump so there is no incentive for him to debunk Q. It is something that can easily be done without disparaging Q followers all of whom are patriots (regardless of whether Q was real). He could set up someone asking him the Q question. I think that these benefits far outweigh the negatives. If Q were harmful to Trump, it is obvious to me (as I have carefully followed Trump from the inception of his June 2015 candidacy) that Trump would debunk it. This concludes my initial assertion.

Before I address the 6 points, I will elaborate on understanding Trump. I believe that Trump has been well aware of what is occurring from the get go. Recall that Admiral Rogers went to see Trump shortly after he got elected and the next day he moved his operation from Trump Tower to Bedminster NJ. Also Trump has been preparing for many years (20-30) and is well connected and aware of the swamp. He is also no stranger to battling with people. It is obvious that he has a strategy in mind. The proof of this is holding back the release of documents requested by Congress. If they are damning to the deep state as is suggested, and in light of the Mueller witch hunt then why not release them right away. Is it reasonable to believe that Trump is going to allow himself to be a punching bag and not fight back? Of course not. The answer is that there must be a strategy in place. A logical speculation is timing - remember Trump is a master showman. Many of us (including me) are impatient and what to see the criminals punished yesterday. Trump however has a long term strategy. By the way his tweets (which are important and strategic) have mentioned declassification. It is clear it is in motion.

Now I will address the 6 points.
1. The point about messaging. Trump has demonstrated that he wants to be the message maker. That is his thing. There is nothing in Q's threads that contradicts Trumps message. There might be some stuff that Trump does not address but I do not see a conflict of Trump vs. Q. With respect about Kabucki theater, the only thing that I see is the Trust Sessions (and some others). Bloggers Stealth Jeff, Imperator Rex and Thomas Wictor (they all retweet each other) have made a good case that the Trump feud with Sessions is a misdirection. The salient points to this are this has allowed Sessions to do his work unimpeded by the MSM (Jonathan Turley wrote a great article earlier this year that Huber with a staff of almost 500 is more effective than a special council) and also it has the Rats and the MSM supporting Sessions. This makes it more palatable for acceptance when Sessions gets indictments. It is genius if so. Also looking at Trump, the behaviors of a feud do not add up. Why would Trump not say things in private to Sessions rather than go through the tweets. I am not fully there on these arguments. My hesitancy is that when the 1st feud occurred in public in 2017 with Trump's tweets Sessions was on Tucker Carlson's show and showed great pains from Trumps comments. It was obvious to me that he was not in on any plan at that time. Subsequently, I think (at least hope) that Trump has spoken to Sessions and told him of his plan. Regardless of what you believe about Sessions and Trump, I do not believe that there is any messaging concern for Trump.

2. With respect to the calming effect on people, the key is whether people get indicted. To me that is the essence of Q. If this doesn't happen (a takedown of the deep state is the real goal), then Q was worthless, even if real. This takes time. It is clear that we could not have started out with indictments in the first few months of Trump's administration. That would have been politically disastrous. 3. This is future speculation. Not relevant from existing threads. 4. The red piling of the deep state is critical. I would agree that there has been wild speculation that has not helped. However, the key is the awareness of the deep state. That is what makes the indictments more acceptable. 5. I accept the premise that the feuding with each other is not helpful. To me, the key is dismantling the deep state and getting indictments. That reality makes the feud moot as that is desired by both sides of the Q debate. If there is no action taken then the discord could be harmful to Trump as great frustration would be felt by his supporters. This would be true without any Q threads. 6. It is true that Q's popularity is based on hope. Also the Q gatherings have developed somewhat into cult behaviors. Some of the Q proofs border on the absurdity. There is one person I follow daily who interprets the Q posts as I find it very interesting and intelligent. Yet there have been some comments that have been cult like. I will name 2. One was a Nov 2017 Trump tweet (retweeted within the last month) where he mentioned 2Qs of growth and Q had 2 posts that day. Another was referencing Trumps Sept 11 tweet where he said that it was the 17th anniversary of 9/11 and she noted 17 - meaning attributing that to Q. Both of these are absurd from a well informed intelligent person. Clear cult like behavior. All of this Q following has a common pro Trump thread to it. That is what bonds everyone. I see no harm at all to Trump. In summary, I conclude that Q is not at all harmful to President Trump. In fact, Q has been helpful.

134 posted on 09/15/2018 12:32:59 AM PDT by TakeChargeBob
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flr


140 posted on 09/15/2018 12:51:45 AM PDT by Nailbiter
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Q at it's very core lies about who he/it is...

Says an anonymous meme blogger known as Carpe Donktum.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

151 posted on 09/15/2018 1:39:20 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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Why are people still acting as if Q Anon is real?

Q Anon is a hoax. The founder just admitted it to the One America News Network.

http://www.oann.com/exposed-creator-of-qanon-speaks-for-the-first-time/


152 posted on 09/15/2018 1:42:28 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now. Free the Donald.)
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Hey JME_FAN, what does Q and POTUS say is the greatest danger to our REPUBLIC? (Please note I said REPUBLIC, not democracy)

I will help you out, human and CHILD trafficking.

Do you know WHY it’s such a danger to our REPUBLIC?

I will help you out again, because as long as our so called leaders are involved in this industry which is BIGGER than drugs or gun running, they open themselves up to do the bidding of evil people instead of WE THE PEOPLE.

This is why POTUS did a special executive order declaring it a NATIONAL SECURITY EMERGENCY.

So, we know POTUS and Q are serious about taking this industry down because they refer to it constantly and HUGE arrests are being made. Every arrest leads to more discovery and more arrests.

With this in mind, even if a person doesn’t believe in Q and thinks it’s all a sham, how can they be against the idea of Q? Good conquering evil seems to drive the shills insane when it comes in the form of Q even though it’s a constant ‘super hero’ and ‘video game’ concept.

What in the world would make people go on every thread about Q and shill their heads off?

I think the shills are upset because their source of child porn and child snuff films are being cut off and they know with the big data center in Utah their days are numbered before before their door will be kicked in. Won’t do them any good to get rid of their computers at this point because they HAVE IT ALL.

The shills absolute desperation to discredit everything about Q gives them away and as we see the arrests we see the people involved coming from every walk of life teachers, preachers, police, judges, lawyers you name it. Lot of sick people and this problem has been allowed to fester to the point that people into this sickness have become very comfortable that they were safe from exposure.....until now.


164 posted on 09/15/2018 2:30:20 AM PDT by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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How many people have even heard of Q, let alone believe it? I’ve never heard it mentioned anywhere outside of FR.


170 posted on 09/15/2018 2:45:17 AM PDT by Hugin
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I got tired reading hours and hours of Q drops, trying to follow all the buzz words, references to other drops, awaiting the "Watch the news tomorrow!!" empty promises, feeling like a late-comer into a cult that has its own language, wasting time that could be put to better use.

That said, I sincerely hope you Q folks are right, for all your work. Just let me know when the plan finally comes true. Meanwhile, I've got to cut the grass, trim the trees, finish putting lights in the garage, redoing the bathroom before the holidays, get the pickup fixed, finish organizing my workshop, instead of trying to figure out what the hell you folks are talking about.

No hard feeling, I hope.

181 posted on 09/15/2018 3:11:40 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWITR,FACBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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Rather spending precious time deciphering droppings, QooQs would be better served if they devoted their time to saving the House. Without an empowered Freedom Caucus and an aggressive Devin Nunes, #MAGA and DJT will be kicked to the curb. Trump deserves that effort from us.


191 posted on 09/15/2018 3:24:41 AM PDT by JonPreston
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You have to be a special kind of moron to blindly buy into political rumor mongering that doesn’t have any degree of substantiation or validation. The Q stuff should be considered leftist-generated claptrap unless proven otherwise.


198 posted on 09/15/2018 3:47:40 AM PDT by pt17
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BFL


202 posted on 09/15/2018 4:00:28 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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CENSOR Q.


203 posted on 09/15/2018 4:02:36 AM PDT by Broker (Dumb Nuff)
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Is it so disturbing to hope that there is some part of the "deep state" apparatus that is truly pro Trump and actively working to advance his agenda?!

The problem, in my POV, is how many RINO's are anti Trump deep-staters seeking to preserve the uniparty. I pray Q is real!

207 posted on 09/15/2018 4:12:41 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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So, I am one who really doesn’t know what to think. My heart wants it to be true. I’m longing to see justice blind again. My gut tells me it’s either a hoax or a deep-state op to out what really may be happening. I say the latter because it’s terrible OPSEC to give the enemy a heads up that all your head fakes (“Sessions is a looser, I hate him”) is all just a brilliant plan.

One thing is CERTAIN: Q has an expiration date. I’ve asked numerous Q advocates when that expiration date was; when will you say “ok, put up or shut up?” I never get an answer. Well, there is an expiration date. It’s when Trump leaves office; earlier if he fires Sessions. After all, if he fires Sessions the whole “trust Sessions, trust the plan” is proved to be a lie.

So, given that the existence of Q is a black and white issue, there is coming a day when a lot of crow will be consumed on his board by a LOT of people.

224 posted on 09/15/2018 6:05:37 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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Qs just another cog in the wheel...if nothing else, he keeps the thinking caps on a lot of folks who would otherwise remain pathetically on the sidelines.

Putting all one's eggs in the Q-basket would not be wise, trying to mute him would serve no purpose.

225 posted on 09/15/2018 6:07:54 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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