Posted on 05/14/2018 1:24:16 PM PDT by jeannineinsd
North Point Community Church Senior Pastor Andy Stanley has stated that Christians need to "unhitch" the Old Testament from their faith.
In the final part of a recent sermon series, Stanley explained that while he believes that the Old Testament is "divinely inspired," it should not be "the go-to source regarding any behavior in the church."
To justify this, Stanley preached last month about Acts 15, which described how the early church decided that Gentile converts did not need to strictly observe Jewish law to become Christians.
"[First century] Church leaders unhitched the church from the worldview, value system, and regulations of the Jewish scriptures," said Stanley.
"Peter, James, Paul elected to unhitch the Christian faith from their Jewish scriptures, and my friends, we must as well."
Stanley argued that it had to be done for the same reason the church in Acts 15 did so, which was so that "we must not make it difficult for those Gentiles who are turning to God." For Stanley, the difficulty lay with the Old Testament and his concern that many Christians are turning away from the faith because of certain passages in the Hebrew Bible.
Stanley argued that the early church showed that there was a need to move past the Old Testament for the sake of gentile believers and that the resurrection of Jesus was enough.
"Jesus' new covenant, His covenant with the nations, His covenant with you, His covenant with us, can stand on its own two nail-scarred resurrection feet. It does not need propping up by the Jewish scriptures," noted Stanley.
"The Bible did not create Christianity. The resurrection of Jesus created and launched Christianity. Your whole house of Old Testament cards can come tumbling down. The question is did Jesus rise from the dead? And the eyewitnesses said he did."
Stanley acknowledged that his comments may be considered "a little disturbing" to some, but then added that for many it is "liberating."
"It's liberating for men and women who are drawn to the simple message that God loves you so much He sent His Son to pave the way to a relationship with you," Stanley said. "It's liberating for people who need and understand grace, who need and understand forgiveness. And it's liberating for people who find it virtually impossible to embrace the dynamic, the worldview, and the values system depicted in the story of Ancient Israel."
While noting that he believed the church needed to unhitch itself from the Old Testament, Stanley still regarded the Jewish scriptures as having importance, saying they were "a means to an extraordinary end."
"The Jewish scriptures are the backstory for the main story," Stanley explained. "They're an important backstory. They're divinely inspired. They are God on the move through ancient, ancient times."
"It's the fabulous story of God the Founder playing by the rules of the kingdoms of this world, to establish a kingdom not of this world. To send a king who would be like no other king. A king who lay down His life for His subjects. A king who would introduce the entire world to God the Father."
Stanley's sermon was the third part of a series titled "Aftermath," in which the pastor was trying to appeal to individuals who left Christianity over what they were taught the Bible said about certain things.
"If you were raised on a version of Christianity that relied on the Bible as the foundation of faith, a version that was eventually dismantled by academia or the realities of life, maybe it's time for you to change your mind about Jesus," stated North Point Community Church.
"Maybe it's time for you to consider the version of Christianity that relies on the event of the resurrection of Jesus as its foundation. If you gave up your faith because of something about or in the Bible, maybe you gave up unnecessarily."
Days before giving the third Aftermath sermon, Stanley preached at the Orange Conference held in Atlanta, Georgia, using Acts 15, as well as John 17, to argue that church unity was more important than "theological correctness."
"[Jesus] prayed for our oneness, that we'd be on the same page," said Stanley at the conference last month. "This is mission critical. If they are not one, we will not win ... unity is mission critical and disunity disrupts the mission."
"Will we prioritize our oneness over our politics? Will we continue to allow the kingdom of the world to divide the Kingdom of God that is in this world because of politics?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pShxFTNRCWI
I was taught, and I believe, that Jesus is the fulfillment of the Old Testament, not the "unhitching" of the Old Testament.
Anyone have any comments on this?
This is all about normalizing homosexuality. He’s just pretending it’s not by using other issues.
Unhitch —
That’s why Paul, and even Jesus quoted it.
Ping.
I suspect that this jasper has an agenda.
In any case, I don't think there is any crisis caused by following the Old Testament. Really that's the least of our worries. I mean, seriously, the world adhering to Leviticus doesn't seem to be an issue that comes up often …
Stanley is either ignorant on the NT or he's a liar. Peter and Paul preached Jesus Christ from the scriptures. That means the Old Testament. James never led his church at Jerusalem out of the temple. Does that sound like James abandoned the OT?
Paul warned the church about Andy Stanley and his ilk:
3For the time is coming when people will not endure sounda teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. 2Timothy 4:3-4
So what Old Testament prohibition does Stanley wish to avoid?
I’m betting homosexuality.
From past experience with folks who want to “unhitch” from the Old Testament, I suspect there are parts of the New Testament he doesn’t like either. That will probably come next, so I’d ask him the question now. “There are parts of the New Testament that sound a lot like some parts of the Old Testament. Would you like to cut some of them out now, before our discussion goes any further?”
If he says, “No,” I’d get it in writing.
If following the Jewish law saved you, there would be no need for a Savior......except no one can follow the Law perfectly.
You cannot “unhitch” it because Jesus cites the OT frequently as do the NT writers. So I am guessing Stanley isn’t saying what he said.
I disagree with Mr. Stanley. I don’t think we can take Jesus Christ out of context like that.
My pastor once said if he could rip one page out of the Bible it would be the divider page that says “New Testament”. Not one “jot or tittle” else.
Well, he’s wrong.
The New Testament is a fulfilment of prophecy contained in the Old Testatment but, we aren’t out of Exodus because of Christ’s resurrection.
My nephew goes to this blasphemer’s church.
OT context is critical to authority of NT — fulfillment of prophecy, etc.
... aaaaand he's a liar.
In one sense this is true. There is a movement afoot to claim that it’s okay to pray doom and destruction on our enemies because King David did so. This is false. Jesus superseded the OT morality, especially when it comes to enemies:
Matthew 5:43-48
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. ...
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:18
When the Apostles preached, they preached first to the Jews and then to the Gentiles. The Jews “searched Scripture” to discern the truth of what they were told. The only Scripture they had at the time was OT. The Bible Itself quotes the OT.
Any preacher who fails to see the seamlessness of Scripture and the teachings of the Apostles doesn’t understand the faith he pretends to preach... or he’s preaching with an agenda.
In the final part of a recent sermon series, Stanley explained that while he believes that the Old Testament is “divinely inspired,” it should not be “the go-to source regarding any behavior in the church.”
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Yet I would be you a hundred bucks the good pastor still preaches and teaches tithing.
This is heresy plain and simple.
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