Posted on 02/19/2018 3:59:47 PM PST by RoosterRedux
On October 25, a strange craft was seen in broad daylight flying amid the heavy traffic of the United States air corridors above the state of Oregon.
Pilots radioed in reports of an aircraft flying outside registered flight plans. It was not responding to radio calls. It had no collision-avoidance transponders. But it was always just outside clear sight.
On the ground, air traffic control was also seeing strange things. Its radar was intermittently tracking an unregistered object moving at unusually high speeds.
It was cause for real concern.
After all, 9/11 showed the potential havoc aircraft flying dark could achieve.
So F-15 interceptor fighters from the U.S. Air Force were scrambled to take a look.
The story was first picked up by "The War Zone" blog of the automotive website The Drive. It tracked down comments from the pilots that had seen something strange that day. It also obtained confirmation of sorts from the U.S. air base that launched the fighters.
Now "War Zone" has obtained ─ through a freedom of information claim ─ a small mountain of documents and hours of audio recordings detailing Oregons air traffic controllers' actions.
Amid the accounts of phone calls, radio exchanges and pilot interviews is an enticing picture of what a substantive UFO report looks like, and how authorities struggle to make sense of what is going on above them.
THAT LOOKS CRAZY
The unidentified flying object was first detected tearing through the air above Northern California by radar stations in Oakland. It was 4:30 p.m. It was unexpected. It was traveling very fast at 37,000.
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Researcher Guy Malone does not believe that any of the current crop of craft and critters are on God's side. He allowed, in personal conversation with Qx that maybe he'd allow a less than 1% chance that maybe a tiny minority might be at some point in time.
Qx believes that God has chosen to use craft for His angels on occasion. And, we may see more of them in the END TIMES. However, the Biblical test is still crucial--do the critters believe that Christ came in the flesh, died in the flesh, arose the 3rd day? If not, consider the critter accursed.
Interestingly, I think it was Jesse Duplantis spoke of coming to himself exiting a 'gondola' sort of vehicle into Heaven. And that when he left Heaven, he again entered the same gondola sort of craft and came to himself on earth. IIRC, he had no memory or awareness of what the trip between was like.
http://www.nairaland.com/1229219/jesse-duplantis-trip-heaven
But the more I studied this stuff, the more I realized that there were common elements in all the accounts...so many in fact that it would be impossible for all these people to describe such similar, horrifying details.
Mack's clinical and meticulously empirical approach to these events pretty much backs up his conclusion that "something very real is going on here" (I paraphrase).
Jocko’s a gurl.:-)
A girl?! Get outta here.... :-)
You know something? You;re a boring , incoherent little twit.
At least that was how I saw Mack in his work.
He was killed in London...hit by a car when he was on foot.
Damn shame. Great guy.
The only problem with the insanity plea for abductees is that Mack found his subjects be be quite normal, except of course for the abduction.
None wanted any attention and, if memory serves, none got any.
It is a fascinating subject, but I don't think the abductors are aliens.
It sounded an awful lot like demonic possession. So your incubi/succubi idea might be right on target.
Didn’t want any attention? I’ve literally dozens of them for decades on TV. Some have written books, like Whitney Strieber and Betty and Barney Hill. Books that were made into movies that they profited off of.
I’m speaking just of Mack’s patients.
Can you elaborate on what you saw up close and personal?
Absolutely indeed.
If not in public, use FreepMail.
FreepMail us if you need to but please tell us (and everyone, if possible) the truth.
In that post, you are insisting that
YOU, in your omniscient loftiness know absolutely and comprehensively more than the head of the Harvard Psychiatric Hospital about
The way I see abductions, besides as total hokum, is an attempt at attention seeking by some people with serious mental issues.
Sooooooo, where did you get your psychiatric MD or psychologist PhD? And how many years MORE than Dr Mack did you head a major psychiatric hospital at an Ivy League University?
The rest of us will continue to trust Dr Mack's expertise and judgment on the matters of the authenticity of the abduction narratives as well as his carefully researched proof that the abductees did not have ANY aberrant mental health issues beyond PTSD from having been abducted so terrifyingly.
BTW, Dr Mack's research was confirming of 2-3 OTHER scientific research studies which ALSO documented that the average abductee did not differ from the general population in terms of mental health--except for some fairly minor to moderate evidence of PTSD from the abduction experience.
One other finding of such research was that on average, abductees were a bit--a significant bit--higher in IQ than the average citizen.
You must have an extremely strange dictionary to think that meticulous and empirical are hostile, disconnected enemies.
The best empirical studies are done very meticulously. It's shockingly strange you'd think they didn't go together.
In terms of the abductees being attention seeking--the FACTS prove otherwise. Only a very tiny percentage of abductees want any publicity whatsoever. A huge majority well over 90%? just want the whole thing--memories included--to just go away. Most are reluctant to talk about it even with close relatives and friends.
Therefore, yet again, your reality understanding, perceptions, assumptions about reality seem to have absolutely NO significant connection to, correlation with objective, scientific reality.
Evidently your arrogance is only approached by your civility and sweetness.
About forty years go I was working on a cadastral survey crew in the Umpqua forest in Oregon. I was up pretty high in a forested area and heard an odd roaring down in one of the forested valleys below me. I got to a spot where I could look down through the trees and saw an odd disc shaped craft hovering about 200 feet off the top of the trees. I only saw it for about thirty seconds but it seemed to have two or three vertical stabilizer fins and some kind of writing or insignia on the sides. After thinking about it as I was hiking I thought maybe a back engineered saucer left over from Roswell.
1. Critters purporting to be ET's. Various types.
2. Critters with USA military personnel.
3. A very few cases appear to have been managed MAYBE with only USA military personnel.
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