[jmacusa]

No offense Rooster but how can some be ‘meticulous and empirical at the same time? Seems like a contradiction in terms. The way I see abductions, besides as total hokum, is an attempt at attention seeking by some people with serious mental issues. The whole thing seems like a modern version of the legend of the Incubus and Succubus. I believe that sadly Mack was killed in an auto accident many years ago.

[RoosterRedux]

Empirical--analysis by careful observation--requires the precision and care in that observation (i.e. meticulousness).

At least that was how I saw Mack in his work.

He was killed in London...hit by a car when he was on foot.

Damn shame. Great guy.

The only problem with the insanity plea for abductees is that Mack found his subjects be be quite normal, except of course for the abduction.

None wanted any attention and, if memory serves, none got any.

It is a fascinating subject, but I don't think the abductors are aliens.

It sounded an awful lot like demonic possession. So your incubi/succubi idea might be right on target.

[JockoManning]

Your arrogance must be off the charts.

In that post, you are insisting that

YOU, in your omniscient loftiness know absolutely and comprehensively more than the head of the Harvard Psychiatric Hospital about

The way I see abductions, besides as total hokum, is an attempt at attention seeking by some people with serious mental issues.

Sooooooo, where did you get your psychiatric MD or psychologist PhD? And how many years MORE than Dr Mack did you head a major psychiatric hospital at an Ivy League University?

The rest of us will continue to trust Dr Mack's expertise and judgment on the matters of the authenticity of the abduction narratives as well as his carefully researched proof that the abductees did not have ANY aberrant mental health issues beyond PTSD from having been abducted so terrifyingly.

BTW, Dr Mack's research was confirming of 2-3 OTHER scientific research studies which ALSO documented that the average abductee did not differ from the general population in terms of mental health--except for some fairly minor to moderate evidence of PTSD from the abduction experience.

One other finding of such research was that on average, abductees were a bit--a significant bit--higher in IQ than the average citizen.

You must have an extremely strange dictionary to think that meticulous and empirical are hostile, disconnected enemies.

The best empirical studies are done very meticulously. It's shockingly strange you'd think they didn't go together.

In terms of the abductees being attention seeking--the FACTS prove otherwise. Only a very tiny percentage of abductees want any publicity whatsoever. A huge majority well over 90%? just want the whole thing--memories included--to just go away. Most are reluctant to talk about it even with close relatives and friends.

Therefore, yet again, your reality understanding, perceptions, assumptions about reality seem to have absolutely NO significant connection to, correlation with objective, scientific reality.