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UFO ‘evidence’: Recordings reveal air traffic control’s confusion at strange craft over Oregon
foxnews.com ^ | Jamie Seidel

Posted on 02/19/2018 3:59:47 PM PST by RoosterRedux

On October 25, a strange craft was seen — in broad daylight — flying amid the heavy traffic of the United States’ air corridors above the state of Oregon.

Pilots radioed in reports of an aircraft flying outside registered flight plans. It was not responding to radio calls. It had no collision-avoidance transponders. But it was always just outside clear sight.

On the ground, air traffic control was also seeing strange things. Its radar was intermittently tracking an unregistered object moving at unusually high speeds.

It was cause for real concern.

After all, 9/11 showed the potential havoc aircraft flying “dark” could achieve.

So F-15 interceptor fighters from the U.S. Air Force were scrambled to take a look.

The story was first picked up by "The War Zone" blog of the automotive website The Drive. It tracked down comments from the pilots that had seen something strange that day. It also obtained confirmation — of sorts — from the U.S. air base that launched the fighters.

Now "War Zone" has obtained ─ through a freedom of information claim ─ a small mountain of documents and hours of audio recordings detailing Oregon’s air traffic controllers' actions.

Amid the accounts of phone calls, radio exchanges and pilot interviews is an enticing picture of what a substantive UFO report looks like, and how authorities struggle to make sense of what is going on above them.

‘THAT LOOKS CRAZY’

The unidentified flying object was first detected tearing through the air above Northern California by radar stations in Oakland. It was 4:30 p.m. It was unexpected. It was traveling “very fast at 37,000”.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; california; f15; fringe; meteorite; oakland; ohsomysteriouso; oregon; radarsighting; thedrive; thewarzoneblog; tictac; ufo; ufos
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To: RoosterRedux
Good comments. LOLOLOLOL.

However, I think their 'grokker' is broken.

141 posted on 02/20/2018 12:15:42 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: RoosterRedux
I am an agnostic in many things. Most particularly in areas of religion and science. These two things are 'bad neighbors'' to each other. I have to leave for work now. Night shift. Sucks. We can continue this later.
142 posted on 02/20/2018 12:16:42 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa

How hard does an analogy have to bite you before you realize it relates to the discussion?


143 posted on 02/20/2018 12:17:09 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: jmacusa
"... or shut your trap." How long have you had this posting dictator complex?
144 posted on 02/20/2018 12:18:19 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: RoosterRedux
Maybe I should be ashamed for toying with the mice so much.

However, I'm happy to take the opportunity afforded by said toying to keep the thread bumped. It may wake some folks up and spare them unnecessary suffering and/or danger.

145 posted on 02/20/2018 12:20:12 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: RoosterRedux

Now, now, Rooster ... trying to infect the inoculated with reason is likely to be a fool’s errand.


146 posted on 02/20/2018 12:22:07 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: jmacusa
I don't actually believe in little green men.

I don't know exactly what it was that people who were analyzed by Dr John Mack (Harvard prof-psychiatry) thought they were being abducted by. But as he and others have said, "there's something there, we just don't know what it is."

Mack, and Jacque Vallee, and Allen Hynek all came to basically the same conclusion...whatever it is, it isn't extraterrestrial. Rather, if this phenomena is in fact real, it seems to be extradimensional.

I would point you to this (click on the image to look are reviews at Amazon)...


147 posted on 02/20/2018 12:29:56 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: jmacusa

Good chatting with you. Have a good one.


148 posted on 02/20/2018 12:37:21 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
An editor should have sent this piece back to the reporter and had him put the important stuff first - and with more 'follow up' explanations. The comment below was in the middle of the piece and there's some follow up about area 51 research and concerns the unknown was Chinese or Russian rather than 'aliens'... I got the feeling the people in the fighter jets knew what they were doing.

"Fighters are ordered into the air from the McChord Air Force Base in Washington."

149 posted on 02/20/2018 1:06:22 PM PST by GOPJ (The 'dead vote' is a byproduct of fraud that votes the people who don't show up.)
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To: GOPJ
I don't think there are editors any more.

We on the interweb now...it's a hole nu wurld.

150 posted on 02/20/2018 1:50:18 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

LOL - your wright.


151 posted on 02/20/2018 2:01:27 PM PST by GOPJ (The 'dead vote' is a byproduct of fraud that votes the people who don't show up.)
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To: Jamestown1630

Also, I have seen UFOs, once up close and personal. Some folks cannot comprehend that truth can be stranger than fiction.


152 posted on 02/20/2018 7:49:07 PM PST by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus. He says absolutely amazing things which few dare consider.)
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To: Jamestown1630

And I forgot, I also believe that they are spiritual in nature. I believe the truly awesome crafts are The LORD’s, and the lesser, poorer imitations are of the enemy.

It’s not that The LORD and His angels need to travel by crafts, but for some reason He chooses it to be so, so it is.

Psalm 68:17 The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.


153 posted on 02/20/2018 7:56:47 PM PST by Bellflower (Who dares believe Jesus. He says absolutely amazing things which few dare consider.)
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To: Bellflower

A lot of people have seen ‘UFOs’.

The questions are: What did they actually SEE; and What was actually THERE?

It’s a question with a multitude of answers. I just don’t happen to believe that any of those answers have to do with ‘intergalactic visitors’.

And I don’t think that you need to fear that ‘inter-dimensional CRITTERS’ are coming here to dismember and eat you up.

So: I suggest that you sleep well, in peace - as I will.

‘K?


154 posted on 02/20/2018 8:00:55 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: RoosterRedux

Mack once asked something very profound about abductees: “Why would anyone want to believe they were abducted.?’’


155 posted on 02/20/2018 10:08:49 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: JockoManning

How long have you had an persecution complex?


156 posted on 02/20/2018 10:10:27 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: JockoManning

Boy, irony’s really lost on you, huh?


157 posted on 02/20/2018 10:11:38 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: JockoManning

Dude, Churchill knew Hitler was a threat in October of 1930. You really need to stick your nose in a book or two.


158 posted on 02/20/2018 10:13:12 PM PST by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: jmacusa
UFO ops and awareness and projects in the USA started well before Roswell.

And some of us have been warning about UFOs for 40-45 years or more.

159 posted on 02/21/2018 12:35:57 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: jmacusa; ransomnote
Mack once asked something very profound about abductees: “Why would anyone want to believe they were abducted.?’’

Did Dr Mack's meaning escape you?

Maybe I can help.

His point was that there was NO reason anyone would LIKE to believe they were abducted to be subjected to horrific and terrifying 'medical' procedures. That therefore, more respect was due their narrative.

i.e. There was no rational explanation for their narrative other than that it was relating true facts truly experienced. They were obviously NOT concocting such stories as some delightfully delusional fantasy or imaginary journey.

There's no rational way to discount Dr Mack's research. It was scientifically carried out; logically analyzed and fittingly interpreted.

He went into the research as an agnostic--a skeptical agnostic. He figured there was some psychological explanation but was keen to see where the data took him.

The DATA convinced him that the subjects were talking about real events that had truly happened to them. They were NOT relating hallucinations. They were NOT blathering on about delusional stuff. They were merely describing real life events that they had personally experienced in their physical bodies.

Your hyper-rationalist construction on reality has no fitting explanation for those facts.

160 posted on 02/21/2018 2:46:30 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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