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Existence of UFO's 'proved beyond reasonable doubt' as expert says earth 'could have been visited'
mirror.co.uk ^ | Rhian Lubin

Posted on 12/24/2017 10:27:39 AM PST by RoosterRedux

The existence of UFOs has "proved beyond reasonable doubt", a former Pentagon official has said.

Luis Elizondo, the former head of a secret US government programme, believes that Earth may well have been visited by alien life via the unidentified aircraft and that there is also proof.

He resigned from the US Department of Defence in October to protest against the excessive secrecy and opposition to the programme he was in charge of.

Speaking to the Sunday Telegraph , he said: "In my opinion, if this was a court of law, we have reached the point of 'beyond reasonable doubt'. I hate to use the term UFO but that's what were looking at.

"I think it's pretty clear this is not us, and it's not anyone else, so one has to ask the question where they're from."

Mr Elizondo could not comment whether or not his team had examined UFO sightings as it was still classified information.

But he told the newspaper there had been "lots" of sightings.

He ran the Advanced Threat Identification Program, funded with £16.5million, from his office in the Pentagon.

The team identified movements and trends that were not like anything else "in the world".

They also discovered "hotspots" during their investigation, which were often near nuclear facilities and power plants.

(Excerpt) Read more at mirror.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; alaska; astronomy; bigelowaerospace; danielinouye; davidfravor; harryreid; hawai; hawaii; jimslaight; luiselizondo; nevada; robertbigelow; science; tedstevens; ufos
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To: BenLurkin
Works for me.

However, the evidence is there are micro-seconds available for taking aggressive action against them before one is frozen and unable to move. Instant fierce anger against them has prove effective in a few cases, however.

181 posted on 12/25/2017 9:26:53 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: BenLurkin
It's better to keep in mind "we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers in high places."

The Name and Blood of Jesus and the word of our testimony of those are more powerful than fists, clubs, bullets with such critters--at least on the part of authentic believers.

182 posted on 12/25/2017 9:28:11 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Windflier
At least 30.

However, if you haven't detected the significant sea changes in the last few months ... and the very different prepping for very significant levels of official disclosure, then you are poorly read, poorly informed.

183 posted on 12/25/2017 9:29:27 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bryanw92
Which part of NO IT DOESN'T is difficult?

Where's your Biblical proof of what you are claiming? There is none.

184 posted on 12/25/2017 9:30:35 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bryanw92

Irrelevant, in the final analysis—at least in the vast majority of cases.


185 posted on 12/25/2017 9:31:38 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: going hot
Perhaps, everything we know about God, is not everything there is to know?

For certain. Not perhaps.

Well put.

Even the NT declares the earth could not have contained all the books about Christ's doings.

186 posted on 12/25/2017 9:32:55 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bryanw92
Not at all. There is no logical, Biblical support for what you are asserting.

NOTHING in all Creation does or can negate the Truths of The Bible--regardless of appearances, smoke, mirrors, tangible demonstrations--whatever. Nothing.

187 posted on 12/25/2017 9:34:21 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

I would venture to suggest that if our Gov’t found Proof of the God of our Bible, they would rather have us believe in Aliens from outer space.


188 posted on 12/25/2017 9:39:16 AM PST by Zeneta
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To: JockoManning

Yes, but back to my original point, the existence of UFO’s visiting the earth is NOT ‘proved beyond reasonable doubt’ if UFO’s themselves have not so been proven.


189 posted on 12/25/2017 9:41:02 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Bryanw92
Q has gone through 3-5 long dark nights of the soul. The worst was when his wife divorced him to marry her co-worker.

In 2-3 of those long dark periods, he was stripped virtually of everything--once, almost even of clothing and shelter.

At the lowest points, he did not have any meaningful grasp on much of anything from his past--including his beliefs.

All he 'knew' with the slightest confidence at one point, was that God was--and probably that the Bible was His true Word--but Q didn't really have much knowing confidence of that--just a strongish flicker of a confidence in a hurricane of pain.

Slowly, God helped him build back his faith and confidence in all that was in Scripture. At this point, nothing he can or might perceive can rock his believe in God's Word. Nothing.

Perceptions are sometimes merely perceptions. Hollyweed has a field day with perceptions--twisting them every which way.

God is Spirit. Those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and Truth ... UTTERLY TRANSCENDING Spirit and Truth.

190 posted on 12/25/2017 9:41:07 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Jim 0216
Not quite yet--to the criteria of many.

Not QUITE yet.

191 posted on 12/25/2017 9:42:05 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

In the meantime, although we touch on this subject on this thread, scripture instructs us, not to look UFO’s, Satan’s lying wonders, or that man of sin to come, but to look to Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.

Merry Christmas and hail to the King of our Hearts and soon-coming King of the World.


192 posted on 12/25/2017 9:49:19 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Zeneta
I would venture to suggest that if our Gov’t found Proof of the God of our Bible, they would rather have us believe in Aliens from outer space.

That is an extremely pregnant and important assertion.

The oligarchy's human leaders have been deceived by their greed and their lust for power ... and particularly their pride.

They have been seduced by the same thing that got satan kicked out of Heaven. They are proud that they have been 'let in on' 'higher "truths." ' They are proud that they are 'more fit' to rule over the little people and treat them as trash, serfs, slaves, objects to do with as they will.

Their full court press propaganda and mass brainwashing of the last 100 plus years has increasingly overtly been in such directions.

The enemy is always sought to undermine and trash Christ's DEITY.

The UFO/ET stuff gives them a powerful way to do that for folks who are not used to thinking at all, much less critical thinking. Particularly folks out of fellowship and intimacy with God Almighty Yehovah.

CHRIST Himself warned about such a Great Deception. He wasn't kidding.

193 posted on 12/25/2017 9:49:31 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Jim 0216
In the meantime, although we touch on this subject on this thread, scripture instructs us, not to look UFO’s, Satan’s lying wonders, or that man of sin to come, but to look to Jesus, the Author and Finisher of our faith.

Merry Christmas and hail to the King of our Hearts and soon-coming King of the World.

Absolutely. Amen! Amen!

194 posted on 12/25/2017 9:50:54 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

I love that guy Q. He’s awesome. :)


195 posted on 12/25/2017 9:52:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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To: Lazamataz
He loves you, too. As you know.

We both wish you the greatest of God's blessings and intimacy this CHRISTmas and in the New Year.

Somehow, Laz, folks seem to be forgetting that jangled ASSUMPTIONS about God's Word do NOT equal jangling God's Word.

196 posted on 12/25/2017 9:59:16 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bryanw92
Jangled ASSUMPTIONS about God's Word do NOT equal jangling God's Word--in the least degree.
197 posted on 12/25/2017 10:00:51 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

>>Which part of NO IT DOESN’T is difficult?

Umm...the part where you scream in caps that I’m wrong without adding a single bit of evidence or even an argument to prove it.


198 posted on 12/25/2017 10:10:52 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Bryanw92
I agree with Q that CAPS do not equal screaming except for millions buying into that convention. They could = a raised tone of voice, raised eyebrows etc. Be that as it may...

I confess to falling prey to frustration that you seemed to be either not reading or not understanding several simple statements. Sorry.

We submit to you the whole of the Bible. There is not one single word, phrase or sentence in it supporting your assertion. It is not very practical to copy and paste the whole of the Bible into this thread.

It is, plausible, to at least ask you to post which part of the Bible convinces you of your assertions.

199 posted on 12/25/2017 10:15:37 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bryanw92
I also confess that I have taken on some of Q's intense concerns about your relationship with God being at risk. We care about you and do not want satan's Great Deception of the End Times make you a casualty.
200 posted on 12/25/2017 10:20:28 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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