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2 Navy Airmen and an Object That ‘Accelerated Like Nothing I’ve Ever Seen’--UFO
New York Times ^ | 12-16-2017 | HELENE COOPER, LESLIE KEAN and RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Posted on 12/16/2017 8:13:02 PM PST by HogsBreath

The following recounts an incident in 2004 that advocates of research into U.F.O.s have said is the kind of event worthy of more investigation, and that was studied by a Pentagon program that investigated U.F.O.s. Experts caution that earthly explanations often exist for such incidents, and that not knowing the explanation does not mean that the event has interstellar origins.

Cmdr. David Fravor and Lt. Cmdr. Jim Slaight were on a routine training mission 100 miles out into the Pacific when the radio in each of their F/A-18F Super Hornets crackled: An operations officer aboard the U.S.S. Princeton, a Navy cruiser, wanted to know if they were carrying weapons.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; alaska; bigelowaerospace; danielinouye; davidfravor; fringe; harryreid; hawai; hawaii; jimslaight; navy; nevada; ohsomysteriouso; robertbigelow; tedstevens; tictac; ufo; ufos; usn; usnavy
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To: UCANSEE2

I think Ivan Sanderson postulated something similar - that they represent some kind of life sharing the Earth with us that we just don’t recognize for what it is.


41 posted on 12/16/2017 9:00:49 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: HogsBreath

I believe that people are really seeing these things; but I don’t believe they are - or are ALL - necessarily nuts-and-bolts objects.


42 posted on 12/16/2017 9:02:39 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jamestown1630

Good ol’ Ivan T. Sanderson. I wore out a lot of his books when I was a teen and young adult.


43 posted on 12/16/2017 9:02:49 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: HogsBreath

Ping


44 posted on 12/16/2017 9:04:35 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: HogsBreath

“I saw bigfoot once...”


45 posted on 12/16/2017 9:06:26 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: dsc

The problem with the idea that they are ‘ours’ is that these things have been seen since long before we had even the technology of our 20th century airplanes.

Jacques Vallee has co-authored a book, ‘Wonders in the Sky’, that is sort of a catalog of historical ‘UFO’ sightings:

https://www.amazon.com/Wonders-Sky-Unexplained-Objects-Antiquity/dp/1585428205


46 posted on 12/16/2017 9:08:22 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: HogsBreath

Same thing my fighter pilot father experienced over the nothern pacific during the Korean War
He never reported it to anyone except my mother
Didnt want to go throught interrogation or worse
She only told me 50 years later


47 posted on 12/16/2017 9:08:27 PM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: HogsBreath

My dad told me about one that shut of the car and all the electronics in the car, after it left the car started right back up again. There was alot more to the story but i wouldn’t have believed it from anyone else.


48 posted on 12/16/2017 9:10:15 PM PST by Husker24
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To: BenLurkin
Hard to say. They have been chased by high performance military aircraft so maybe they are shy... I am inclined to believe they are a breakthrough earthly technology slowly being brought to light. Or to confuse the issue. Honestly, I don’t know, and I don’t know how we could determine why we get reports that they just fly away. They have flown away in my experience but only once from fighter jets.
49 posted on 12/16/2017 9:12:00 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: BenLurkin

So, why does it bother flying away?

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To get to where it’s going.


50 posted on 12/16/2017 9:13:36 PM PST by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Nuc 1.1

I guess my point is that the people investigating these incidents don’t seem to be very good at it.

Wish they’d hire me to cross-examinine.


51 posted on 12/16/2017 9:15:42 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: dsc

Interesting I have had similar experience. I really hope they are ours. If they are not God help us if they are hostile.


52 posted on 12/16/2017 9:15:53 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: BenLurkin
Okay, here’s a serious question for you gentlemen.

UFO is seen visually. UFO is seen on radar.

It clearly has no objection to being seen.

So, why does it bother flying away?

Teenagers out to scare the locals: the alien equivalent of cow-tipping.

53 posted on 12/16/2017 9:18:29 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

We know.

TRADITION!

That’s what our house thinks of that pic.

Particularly on FR.


54 posted on 12/16/2017 9:19:10 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: HogsBreath

Was it Judge Jeanine in her Caddie? If she were hilltopping, she could become airborne.


55 posted on 12/16/2017 9:19:11 PM PST by GnuThere
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To: laplata

He is a trip. Have a VERY Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year FReeper!


56 posted on 12/16/2017 9:20:29 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: BenLurkin
Pretty hard to answer, Ben.

They seem to enjoy the cat and mouse game ... or it has some other manipulative goal we are hard pressed to articulate.

57 posted on 12/16/2017 9:21:46 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Jamestown1630

As someone who actually saw swamp gas in action, and who has spent a lot of time gazing at both radar screens and the sky, I’m skeptical.


58 posted on 12/16/2017 9:22:28 PM PST by dsc (Any pattempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Nuc 1.1

And a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you.


59 posted on 12/16/2017 9:22:45 PM PST by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: HogsBreath

I believe that the 1st world nations have technology far in advance to what they admit to. If they say, “Russia will soon be able to charge satellites with laser beams,” you can be sure that’s old technology for them....and for us. Sadly I believe they “more than one nation” are about to start unveiling some of this and will portray it as of alien origin and will be the cause that we should give up sovereignty as a nation in order to “come together” to fight this supposed foe. It’s an another means by which the New World Order is angling to come about.
You know how you can make a cat chase a laser? I watched some lights moving “too fast” in a video. It went into a white contrail and around it, the contrail “dissolved.” This was supposed to prove it was craft (physically there) but I remain convinced it was probably laser which evaporated the contrail. So I think it’s a mix of hoax and deception but the end goal is not good for freedom.


60 posted on 12/16/2017 9:23:03 PM PST by ransomnote
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