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2 Navy Airmen and an Object That ‘Accelerated Like Nothing I’ve Ever Seen’--UFO
New York Times ^ | 12-16-2017 | HELENE COOPER, LESLIE KEAN and RALPH BLUMENTHAL

Posted on 12/16/2017 8:13:02 PM PST by HogsBreath

The following recounts an incident in 2004 that advocates of research into U.F.O.s have said is the kind of event worthy of more investigation, and that was studied by a Pentagon program that investigated U.F.O.s. Experts caution that earthly explanations often exist for such incidents, and that not knowing the explanation does not mean that the event has interstellar origins.

Cmdr. David Fravor and Lt. Cmdr. Jim Slaight were on a routine training mission 100 miles out into the Pacific when the radio in each of their F/A-18F Super Hornets crackled: An operations officer aboard the U.S.S. Princeton, a Navy cruiser, wanted to know if they were carrying weapons.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; alaska; bigelowaerospace; danielinouye; davidfravor; fringe; harryreid; hawai; hawaii; jimslaight; navy; nevada; ohsomysteriouso; robertbigelow; tedstevens; tictac; ufo; ufos; usn; usnavy
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To: Hot Tabasco

That was cool! Thanks.


121 posted on 12/17/2017 10:41:27 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: 21twelve
I have found some relatives tax records on line from 1500s. Im not sure if the term used is supposed to mean lumberjack or forest wardens...

Tools like the internet put an amazing amount of information at ones fingertips.

What if your visitors are not extraterrestrial but rather extratemporal?

122 posted on 12/17/2017 10:42:48 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Please let me know what you think. I remember seeing some very heavy equipment heading up to Dulce. Some vehicles had USAF markings on them.


123 posted on 12/17/2017 10:59:31 AM PST by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: fidelis

There were a couple major UFO incidents up in the ICBM missile fields years ago. The Alert Response Teams testified they saw UFOs hovering over some of the Launch Facilities and crazy things happened to the weapon systems while they were observed.


124 posted on 12/17/2017 11:05:06 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: dsc
"swamp gas"

Ive spent a good amount of time in northern swamps but have never seen the gas phenomenon. Maybe the wrong kinds of swamps in the wrong locations.

Theres a will-o-wisp that "lives" in a swamp near here. I havent seen it but heard stories. The will-o-wisp descriptions actually sounds more like something else Im familiar with.

Im familiar with two debated origin FOs. One travels a ridge. The ridge runs from somewhere up in Michigans UP, creates Wisconsins Door county, and continues as a fault down toward Chicago. The other travels a different direction in the UP/Northern Wisconsin down through a long valley toward the West.

Ive seen an experiment by a couple of geologists who took a spindle of granite(?) and compressed it until it fractured. It generated a big ball of intense light they explained was piezoelectric in origin. This brief flash looked similar to the sustained moving glowing ball FOs I know of that some locals have claimed are visitors. Both of those FOs travel above obvious faults in the earth.

The will-o-wisp lives in a swamp just off to the side of one of those faults. Ive wondered if it isnt swamp gas but rather the expression of a secondary small fault and how many of the will-o-wisps Ive heard of could be explained similarly.

125 posted on 12/17/2017 11:12:10 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: gnarledmaw

Piezoelectricity seems a likely explanation for some things,


126 posted on 12/17/2017 11:14:53 AM PST by dsc (Any pattempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

“My two cousins saw something in a field at our family farm in western NY back in the ‘60s or ‘70s. Scared the crap out of them. One has passed on, and the other won’t talk about it.”

Sounds like demons.


127 posted on 12/17/2017 11:16:00 AM PST by dsc (Any pattempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: laplata
No my housemate didn't see it that he can recall. His uncle did and his boss at the local Chevrolet dealer ordered him not to talk about it. A number of folks were reportedly so ordered by various 'officials.'

Housemate's uncle's son later worked at S4 and saw craft coming and going from an adjacent area routinely.

128 posted on 12/17/2017 11:21:20 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: JockoManning

That’s interesting.

What is S4?


129 posted on 12/17/2017 11:35:58 AM PST by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: 21twelve
He got a kick out of your comment. We started out thinking a lot alike--as did my husband earlier--A--and have come to be more that way in the years since that time. Our very platonic relationship and our daily communications have come to resemble folks married for 80 years who talk and think alike. LOL.

And he routinely checks out FR threads. These days, he believes that the book EXO-VATICANA has the best analyses of the whole thing. It is a 600 page SUMMARY of thousands of pages of documents. Some of them from the Vatican's secret archives. He said he never read anything so thoroughly researched in his entire life. And he's read tons of research. The DVD that comes with the paper version from Horn's website has 10's of thousands of those referenced docs on it.

He does not believe that the critters are all demons. He's not 100% sure any are demons though maybe some of the craft are and some of the biological robots probably have demons in them. He believes they are fallen angels. Demons were fallen angels that lost their bodies in Noah's flood. There were fallen angels manifesting after Noah's flood.

The issue of giants is evidently related. Steve Quayle is good on that in his youtube videos. When Steve is in his shrill mode with tons of rapid-fire run-on sentences, Q can only handle about 10-15 minutes of him. But Q thinks Steve is a great researcher and analyst as well as Christian.

And, Q believes that L.A. Marzulli, Chuck Missler etc. are also top flight on the topic. Researcher Guy Malone is also good on abductions--stopping them in the Name and Blood of Jesus, etc.

Congrats on your poster.

BTW, He has not heard from Las Vegas Dave and is not likely to. Dave's close relative was furious that Q managed to get mention of Dave's need of prayer put hereon. The relative claimed that Dave was extremely private and would not have wanted that.

Trouble is, Dave was not that private with Q and occasionally would allow Q to mention some things. Dave had actually asked Q to request prayer on Dave's behalf hereon a number of times. If the relative reads this, they'll likely be more furious but so what. They've already cut Q off from all comms. Q just would like prayer for Dave, if he's still around. Dave took up the UFO ping list after Q left. IIRC, {Q's nodding his head} Dave had serious brain and (he thinks) heart problems and it was looking quite bleak at that time}.

Q believes that Tom DeLonge is the real deal and will be a key part of growing disclosures of the Great Deception of the END TIMES as Q puts it. He wonders if Tom is aware that Tom and group need to put some shocking things out there in the public domain very soon or they will lose ALL credibility regardless of their high job statuses and security clearances.

I have had enough stuff go on with my family of origin and my own thinking and traumas that I've kind of decided to turn over a new leaf and speak up far more than I used to publicly. Time is so short, in the opinion of our household. We all probably need to stand up and be counted for good.

Q thinks that the recent revelation of the Navy? Air Force? I forget--the military cameras on the planes that caught the UFO they were after square in their sights--Q thinks that article, release is the real deal and another moderate escalation of the disclosure.

He came across a youtube of a young bloke who had a dream or trip to Heaven or something like that, wherein the lad was told that looming WW3 would be horrible but that the war with the fallen angels afterward would be much worse. That they would try to exterminate mankind--as well as eat humans.

Q gives even less of a flip now what folks think of his opinions about UFO's, BTW. Time has proven him overwhelmingly right about them for more than 50 years so he's comfortable with that. And, at over 70, he cares less what people think about him in any respect. Its been kind of nice to see. He's a lot less defensive. And, he tries less to teach a pig to sing. He will enjoy this thread.

Q has noted L.A. Marzulli's documentation that the Fatima UFO episodes were just that--deceptions by the fallen angels that the RCC bought into. Q has that video but hasn't seen it all. It appears to parallel the 3 books the Fatima area Portuguese researchers wrote who interviewed as many experiencers as they could find. I think Q raised a ruckus hereon years ago posting about those books.

I don't think he wants that topic to stir up such angst again--though he'd like folks to know the truth before the enemy deceives further.

Anyway--I think I've about run out on thoughts triggered by your kind post. God's best to you and those you love from our household.

Look Up--not for ET's but for our Redemption draws closer.

130 posted on 12/17/2017 12:06:21 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: lurk

NM has tons of highly secret research going on there. IIRC, for many years and probably still, it, therefore, has the highest per capita rate of PhD’s in the resident population.


131 posted on 12/17/2017 12:12:05 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: StolarStorm

Hmmmm . . . Solar Storm?


132 posted on 12/17/2017 12:14:16 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: brooklin

He warmly grinned at your comment. Thanks, from him.


133 posted on 12/17/2017 12:17:18 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: laplata

He sends his thanks.


134 posted on 12/17/2017 12:20:31 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: laplata

A somewhat famous adjacent research area designation.


135 posted on 12/17/2017 12:23:23 PM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Jamestown1630
The problem with the idea that they are ‘ours’ is that these things have been seen since long before we had even the technology of our 20th century airplanes.

Time travelers.

136 posted on 12/17/2017 12:38:39 PM PST by hattend
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To: catnipman

Complete with the dreaded anal probe?


137 posted on 12/17/2017 1:51:31 PM PST by doorgunner69 (No video seems to happen a lot when they shoot somebody..........)
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To: Jamestown1630

Wow....more to the story. The guy that ran the program recently retired. He requested 2 other videos be released...they have not been so far.
‘The videos, all taken from cockpit cameras, show pilots struggling to lock their radars on oval-shaped vessels that, on screen, look vaguely like giant flying Tic Tacs. The strange aircraft - no claims are made about their possible origins or makeup - appear to hover briefly before sprinting away at speeds that elicit gasps and shouts from the pilots.’

http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/article190228164.html


138 posted on 12/17/2017 2:57:06 PM PST by HogsBreath
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To: hattend

I never bought into that - except in the sense that it may be something prophetic - a sort of ‘herald’ - coming up from the ‘collective unconscious’. It’s been noted that a lot of the historical ‘sightings’ seem to have exhibited types of technology which, at the time, we were just over the human technological horizon.


139 posted on 12/17/2017 3:23:31 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: BenLurkin

That actually was my favorite scene in that movie since I first saw it as a kid!


140 posted on 12/17/2017 4:00:54 PM PST by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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