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I thought this was interesting (sometimes The Atlantic has something worthwhile), but the above had to be reduced to less than 300 words from the article .

education enriches individuals much more than it enriches nations.

My thesis, in a single sentence: Civilized societies revolve around education now, but there is a better—indeed, more civilized—way. If everyone had a college degree, the result would be not great jobs for all, but runaway credential inflation. Trying to spread success with education spreads education but not success. - https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/01/whats-college-good-for/546590/

See some (somewhat dated) stats on American Education here .

Note that I do not recommend all other articles such as 'Suicide Would Have Been a Blessing' "For Palestinians, There's Only One Road Left"...

1 posted on 12/08/2017 4:46:13 AM PST by daniel1212
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Ping.


2 posted on 12/08/2017 4:47:06 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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Are they kidding? All those “Ethnic Studies” majors add so much to the national dialogue.


3 posted on 12/08/2017 4:51:08 AM PST by anton
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Most occupations are quite capable of training needed employees at a tenth of the current costs.


4 posted on 12/08/2017 4:53:31 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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6 posted on 12/08/2017 4:59:58 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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Just think, if we didn't have all these illegals in our country taking up say Concrete Work, Landscaping etc.

Than young men who aren't necessarily suited for college would have access to good paying jobs.

Teaching them the value of hard work and an appreciation for the fruits of your labor when the government takes it from you.

7 posted on 12/08/2017 5:11:20 AM PST by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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These days, college exists mostly as a "gatekeeper" credential. Its purpose is to indicate that the holder can read and write at some basic level (something a high school diploma used to do). With grade inflation, a college degree is no longer any indication of literacy (for example, the brain-dead Dem Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee has a bachelors from Yale, and a law degree from University of Virginia)
10 posted on 12/08/2017 5:15:19 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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Yet a lifetime of experience, plus a quarter century of reading and reflection, has convinced me that it is a big waste of time and money....

Well; it keeps the in-employment rate down.

11 posted on 12/08/2017 5:16:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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“Might”?!? May.


12 posted on 12/08/2017 5:16:47 AM PST by PfromHoGro (Orwell was overly optimistic.)
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Most college involves little more than a structured reading list. Law, medicine and engineering are exceptions IMHO.


15 posted on 12/08/2017 5:20:00 AM PST by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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Once again... I work at t univ and am daily almost hourly, shocked at HOW absolutely incapable students are to do the simplest things or think for themselves.

They have had their hands held right up to the point of entering college and the bar is by now, so low that they get admitted. Just the same they are challenged beyond their capabilities right from the start.

Whether it’s housing, scheduling, academics, enrolling, personal or otherwise... or just finding their way around... they are idiots

What is more, they don’t know HOW to address problems or what basic resources are available so that they can resolve things for themselves. The floor leading to my desk has carpet beaten down from kids who think that they only need to show up and get things ‘fixed’ for them, without any effort on their own part.

We won’t even talk about the daily lost and found crap that goes on... phones, books, purses, calculators, keys, watches.... once we got a violin and it took a week for the owner to come in and get it.


19 posted on 12/08/2017 5:49:44 AM PST by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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It’s not for everyone. It’s stupid to lower standards to let some in, giving them remedial English courses and passing them in spite of failure.
Much of college is nonsense courses: White Privilige, feminism, trans-dick-chopping, and others.


22 posted on 12/08/2017 6:06:22 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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Yes, we are sometimes now seeing some good papers in the Atlantic. This one is a very good one.

I think it is an article in which many Conservatives might see ideas they already instinctively believe to be true, as life with their values and experience have shown them. Ours have come mostly through anecdotal experience and his have come through collecting, and studying the information.


23 posted on 12/08/2017 6:25:31 AM PST by Wuli
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“but runaway credential inflation”

Did you mean runaway colorectal inflation?


24 posted on 12/08/2017 6:27:02 AM PST by cymbeline
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25 posted on 12/08/2017 6:28:33 AM PST by dfwgator
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90% of the students in college don’t belong there.

It’s a gigantic scam.


27 posted on 12/08/2017 6:41:48 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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Some people would benefit from being in the military. Even the Army, no matter how “briefly.”


32 posted on 12/08/2017 7:40:51 AM PST by Gamecock (The greatest threat to humanity is not "out there" but "in here" in the recesses of the soul. TK)
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It absolutely would be better off if our Congress would guarantee not to ship all our industry overseas. We could have all kinds of trade schools. Leave academia to actual academics who do serious research, not “studies”—i.e. marxist indoctrination.


34 posted on 12/08/2017 9:51:28 AM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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Graduate & Professional Degree ping
35 posted on 12/08/2017 9:52:43 AM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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If everyone had a college degree, the result would be not great jobs for all, but runaway credential inflation.

Thirty five years ago in southcentral Pennsylvania only the Superintendent of the School District was expected to have a Ph.D.---maybe the assistant.

Then that degree became and expectation for High School Principals.

Now it is trickling down to Middle Schools and elementary schools.

Enough already!

36 posted on 12/08/2017 10:08:25 AM PST by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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It seems as though a third of my students wish they were somewhere else. I imagine many of these are having tuition handed to them.


42 posted on 12/08/2017 10:29:50 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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