Posted on 12/05/2017 9:09:38 PM PST by Mariner
Republicans have persuaded themselves that keeping control of Congress in 2018 depends on passing their tax-cut plans. And it could work out that way.
But a national poll released today shows that President Donald Trump and his party have an enormous amount of work to do. Right now, the tax bill only adds to their burdens.
The telephone survey of 1,508 voters was conducted by Quinnipiac University from Nov. 29 to Dec. 4 as the Senate pushed through its tax-cut bill, setting up conference committee negotiations on a final version with the House. It carries a margin for error of 3.1 percentage points.
The poll shows Americans oppose the Republican tax-cut effort by nearly two-to-one, as 29 percent approve and 53 percent disapprove. That's a worse showing than Obamacare ever recorded, and more unpopular than former President Bill Clinton's tax increase plan when it passed in 1993.
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There you have it. The media continuously pounds on
the GOP, and more specifically, anything conservative.
Then they proudly publish or broadcast polling
results which demonstrate how the public despises
anything conservatism advances. If the MSM ever played
the news down the middle we would cream liberalism at
every turn and the bad guys know it.
everyone of these stinking pubs needed to be unitied from the get go instead of whimpering around like something bad was happening...
I hate them...I vote for them...but I hate them...
Obvious we have to retire a number of GOPe/RINOs to get something decent.....this at least follows Regan’s thoughts about going for the loaf one slice at a time....
You got that right. So far most of what I've read about the plan has three messages:
Yep. Is this REALLY what “freedom of the press” was meant to be? And no, I am not advocating the removal of said right... only that I truly despise the abuse of the rights our founding father’s specifically enshrined.
How do you define a “real tax cut”?
Seems that this bill (actually, the Senate and the Home bills both) reduces the tax rate for the vast majority of taxpayers, and while it eliminates a few popular deductions, it increases the standard deduction and child/dependent credits - so essentially reducing the taxable net income for the majority of taxpayers as well - together they theoretically reduce the tax bill for most.
Is that not a tax cut?
Or is your definition of real tax cut - just simply a direct, no chair-swapping, cut to the rates alone?
The GOP is so hated, I will be very surprised if they are not wiped out in November.
” we would cream liberalism at
every turn and the bad guys know it.”
What do you mean by “we”? The Republican Party is not on your side.
Geesh, I pointed out “more specifically, conservatism”
yet that is not good enough for you. In addition, I
wonder why some people are so willing to so easily
surrender a beautiful tried and true name like
‘Republican’ to the fakes, the phonies, the Demolites.
If we hang in we can get control of our namesake. Or,
are we pussies?
Remember - we are nearly to the point where half of the population has no skin in the game (pay no Federal tax).
When a single mother of 5 (with none of those children having the same father) can live in Section 8 housing (at no cost, and draw government checks totally right at $5K per month... What is the incentive to get out and get a job? Or if she does work, to actually improve herself and move up in a job, making more money? There is none. To make that $5k AFTER taxes (not to mention $800-1000 worth of rent we didn't even include) - she would have to gross nearly $100K per year in income (particularly when you figure in health care too). She MIGHT have a high school education... Honestly - she will likely NEVER do anything constructive -and her 5 (or 6, or 10... with no responsibility on the "baby daddies") children will never learn anything better. All he telling them they need to get an education and learn skills and work hard... WHY? Momma doesn't - and doesn't need to. Stay at home, watch TV, go to the casinos when the checks come in... party with her boyfriend of the week... etc... Food stamps... WIC... Why do ANYTHING when you can live off of taxpayers like that?
Between the vast buffet of federal tax dollar programs that so many (here legally or not) millions have grown absolutely dependent on... and the tax system that has become a brazen, unapologetic Robin Hood scheme... it all is ultimately unsustainable. $20 TRILLION debt? Hello??? And a federal government that classifies the unconstitutional spending for taxpayer-funded unearned benevolence as "mandatory expenditures" yet classifies defense spending and other Constitutional areas of government as lower priorities... it obviously is a broken system that there really is no answer.
I think that’s quite accurate.
I don’t wish ill on anyone, including a welfare Mom of the type you describe. But she and hers are absolutely government dependent. 100%. And I agree, she would have to earn a very good salary for which she is nowhere near qualified (in a general sense) to provide what her gov’t benefits provide.
It’s unfortunately true that she will also require gov’t assistance to get off such a regimen, should that ever become a hint of a potential reality.
Meanwhile, the Democrat "tax cuts for the rich" mantra is easy for them to process.
Oh, please. If Obama was trying to pass this same legislation it would be roundly bashed. How about a real, real tax cut. Not, and, if you stand on your toes, squit, and look at it in the right light, at the right time of day, it kind of looks like a tax cut.
Seriously? While I most definitely do not see this as any kind of “tax reform”, and am underwhelmed with what it appears would be the bottom-line change to my own tax burden - it is, BY DEFINITION, a tax cut.
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