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The 350-year-old trick to get people to change their mind
news.com.au ^ | October 17, 20178:08am | Ally Foster

Posted on 10/16/2017 6:19:57 PM PDT by sparklite2

“One of the first things you have to do to give someone permission to change their mind, is to lower their defences and prevent them from digging their heels in to the position they already staked out,” Marman told SBS.

“If I immediately start to tell you all the ways in which you’re wrong, there’s no incentive for you to co-operate. But if I start by saying, ‘Ah yeah, you made a couple of really good points here, I think these are important issues,’ now you’re giving the other party a reason to want to co-operate as part of the exchange. And that gives you a chance to give voice your own concerns about their position in a way that allows co-operation.”

So next time you are faced with a situation where you need to change someone’s mind, old Pascal’s trick might be able to help you out.

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TOPICS: Reference
KEYWORDS: changemind; manipulation; reasoning
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To: Tai_Chung

Liberals simply can’t be reached. I’ve learned that it is a waste of time.


21 posted on 10/16/2017 8:49:06 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: DuncanWaring

“It’s been noted that logic won’t get a person out of a position that logic didn’t get them into”.

Very good!

Liberals thinking is based on feelings (feel good group think), not logic.


22 posted on 10/16/2017 8:51:59 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Hambone 1934

That’s for certain.


23 posted on 10/16/2017 8:52:39 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Robert DeLong

“It only works with those that possess a mind. Liberals are devoid of one”.

Please see my tagline.


24 posted on 10/16/2017 8:54:05 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: sparklite2

Smile, be courteous and understanding, and stick a loaded .45 to their temple.


25 posted on 10/16/2017 8:56:40 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: sparklite2

If that proves to be ineffective with them (because they're a stinking, empty-headed liberal, or something like that), perhaps you can move on to plan B...




"I see what you mean!"

26 posted on 10/16/2017 9:07:52 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Billthedrill

Beat me to it!


27 posted on 10/16/2017 9:08:34 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: tired&retired

Wow, can I subscribe to your newsletter?

Seriously, that sounds pretty cool, I’d love to read/see/year more.


28 posted on 10/16/2017 10:35:27 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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The 350-year-old trick to get people to change their mind

"Rabbit season!"
"Duck season!"

"Rabbit season!"
"Duck season!"

"Rabbit season!"
"Rabbit season!"

"DUCK SEASON!"

Works every time.

29 posted on 10/16/2017 10:49:45 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: Chuckster

There ya go.

You can also lead people anywhere you want with the right questions.


30 posted on 10/16/2017 11:25:41 PM PDT by getitright (Finally- a president who offers hope!)
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To: getitright; All
"You can also lead people
anywhere you want
with the right questions...."




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31 posted on 10/16/2017 11:31:14 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot
When the few leftists who actually listen what is being said and finally arrives at the point to understand that his argument is illogical, nonsensical, built on fallacy, maybe even contradict the laws of nature, ...he will double down and insist he is still right / superior.

Actually, that's when you get called a racist, xenophobe, nazi, etcetera, depending upon the circumstance and nature of the discussion. They're going to shut it down and if they can't shut it down they'll shout it down. Nature of the beast, spent many mostly futile years in leftist haunts, drinking and debating/arguing.

Won a few over, and surprisingly the old hippies are the most amenable. The left or what it's become actually scares them, it's what they thought they'd fought against in the sixties and seventies. They sort of default into a vague left-libertarian position, still vote largely Democrat, but there's nothing about the modern Democrat Party that could be described as live and let live or go along to get along. It's all about confrontation and force. Pointing that out gently without partisan rancor is the single most effective thing I could do at the time. They've become what they though they hated.

32 posted on 10/16/2017 11:38:09 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: tired&retired

Sounds very interesting.

Is there a good book on this subject?


33 posted on 10/17/2017 12:00:25 AM PDT by poconopundit (CNN is... Corruption News Neglected)
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To: SunkenCiv

Bingo ...... “Verbal Judo” reasoning with a liberal is never an option. Just go with a wood shampoo with a 36” riot baton and a OC rinse for the ice breaker.


34 posted on 10/17/2017 1:08:43 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Yes, you have described what I experienced as well.

Last night I was having dinner with some colleagues, and the subject of President Trump came up. Generally, i avoid political discussions at at work, but they brought it up. They detest him. I pointed out two things - (1) he is an independent despite the “R” as he has neither the strong support of the entrenched DC interests of either party. This brings resentment to a person who did something quite remarkable in politics - never held political office and won the top prize the first time he ran. (2) While he is viewed as “unpolished” in his speech, there are millions of people in the Northeast who speak exactly like he does - tell you what they think without filters - especially Democrats. Except unlike other politicians, he tells you what he thinks and what he wants to do, instead of being a smooth talking, lying politician. They conceded both points, then decided we should talk about something else. I think our work relationship kept them from the ad hominem attacks, though I presented my position as a neutral observer.


35 posted on 10/17/2017 6:04:04 AM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: tired&retired

I too would like to learn more. Have you published your material or can you reference any worthwhile reading on the subject?


36 posted on 10/17/2017 6:06:59 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: laplata

Most I’ve met literally do not have a mind, at least that functions beyond the normal motor control functionality. 8>)


37 posted on 10/17/2017 9:28:01 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

It’s extremely frustrating.


38 posted on 10/17/2017 9:40:31 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

It used to frustrate me, & then I realized that their lack of a brain make it impossible for them think on their own. So I just do not engage them in topics that require thought process. 8>) My anxieties & frustrations towards them evaporated after that course of action. You can only have a meaningful conversation on certain topics with those capable of thinking for themselves.


39 posted on 10/17/2017 10:01:05 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

They do have enough of a brain to be indoctrinated. I suppose that is all that is required to be led like stupid sheep or zombies.


40 posted on 10/17/2017 1:21:53 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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