[OneVike]

I better add another disclaimer, so people wont think I'm cruel.

As I said in the beginning, I send my condolences to anyone who has lost a loved in the wake of Hurricane Harvey, and Irma. I also offer my prayers for all who have been effected by Harvey's destruction and those who will be effected by Irma, where ever it may land. I do not mean to discount the suffering many are going through, nor do I want to insult anyone who cares so much for their loved ones that they are evacuating their home for safer ground.

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[HiTech RedNeck]

I’m praying that Irma will skirt much of Florida, but we don’t know all the factors that will influence her path.

Yes, the modelers may be giving short shrift to the vertical dimension of the air. Maybe the model that has Irma going well out into the Gulf and lightly brushing the panhandle is the one that is most realistic.

I’d like to see better science attempted in future, science that will model the air vertically as well as horizontally. Perhaps if we but had refined the method, with vertical as well as horizontal measurements of air, we might have been able to say (for example) that hey, Irma is going to head out into the Gulf, so don’t sweat it central and northern Florida, and only prepare for some heavy rain in southern Florida.

I agree that grinding the anthropogenic global warming axe will create blind spots in science that never needed to be there.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

I posted 3 days ago that I believed it was going to go westward and into the Gulf of Mexico. Chit chat post got deleted.

[raybbr]

I’m not getting the God part. Are you saying God is in control of the hurricane? Or, because they don’t believe in God they’ll get it wrong?

[Impala64ssa]

< , Congressman Hank Johnson, that Guam could possibly tip over if we station 8,000 more marines there >
Admiral Willard deserved the Congressional Medal of Honor for keeping a straight face during that joke of an inquiry. Hank Johnson should hook up with Sheila Jackson Lee, there's a pair that beats a royal flush.

[Leep]

God doesn’t make fools of anyone.

[lepton]

One of the major flaws in the hurricane/AGW argument is that it is not the globe warming that makes hurricanes stronger. It is the combination of airflow effects, and TEMPERATURE DIFFERENTIAL.

Like Superstorm Sandy, what fed the massive storm was not it being warm, but that there was a cool area just north of the hurricane, which was cool and moist (Enough that it doesn't "dry out" the hurricane, robbing it of energy instead of charging it).

Here we are again:

http://www.intellicast.com/National/Temperature/Departure.aspx

(This is a dynamic map that will update daily, but illustrates what is going on today).

[lepton]

One of the major flaws in the hurricane/AGW argument is that it is not the globe warming that makes hurricanes stronger. It is the combination of airflow effects, and TEMPERATURE DIFFERENTIAL.

Like Superstorm Sandy, what fed the massive storm was not it being warm, but that there was a cool area just north of the hurricane, which was cool and moist (Enough that it doesn't "dry out" the hurricane, robbing it of energy instead of charging it).

Here we are again:

http://www.intellicast.com/National/Temperature/Departure.aspx

(This is a dynamic map that will update daily, but illustrates what is going on today).

[UnwashedPeasant]

The Left can predict the weather 100 years in advance with absolute certitude to 1/10th of a degree.

How can they mispredict an active hurricane’s path from one day to the next?

[BenLurkin]

The author doesn’t know the difference between a climate model and a storm tracking model.

Also doesn’t seem to have heard about hurricane Jose. Or else thinks God is mocking algore by sending two Category 5 storms across the Atlantic like a pulling guard leading the fullback.

[Daffynition]

Has anyone blamed the norks for the hurricanes and earthquakes yet?

[editor-surveyor]

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Yer preechin to da choir!
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[metmom]

Well, my point is not whether or not to evacuate, my point is the computer models we are told are infallible.

Nobody has ever made the claim that the hurricane models or any other forecast models were infallible.

The NWS and NHC is ALWAYS telling people they cannot be as precise as everyone should like them to be and to follow the cone of probable landfall.

I don't know where people get the idea that any dynamic system that's in a constant state of flux can be predicted with any kind of pinpoint accuracy, but it can't. That's just the fact of the matter. There are far too many variables involved in any weather system and it is not possible to take into every single factor that might or might not be involved.

_Irma was not so bad in some areas as they expected and THANK GOD FOR THAT. On the other hand, it was worse for others in other areas than they expected.

Anyone who feels to free to criticize can go get their degree in meteorology and go tell those doing how it SHOULD be done if they want.

Well, I can see this thing getting into the warm waters of the Gulf that will build this thing up to a category 6 or 7 before hitting landfall in a place no one is prepared, and no one has a chance to get out of the way. I'm sure their goofy computer model has room for category 6 and 7 type Hurricanes.

No the *goofy* hurricane models DON't have room for a Cat 6 or 7.

Go write better models for hurricane forecasting if you think they are not adequate.

[metmom]

Sorry, but call me skeptical. There are a lot of weather forecasters on television who's reputation is on the line, and after the way Harvey fooled them, they cannot afford to be made to look foolish again.

Harvey fooled no one. They called Harvey right.

Here's a suggestion. Why don't you check your facts before you write a screed?

As Houston flooded, meteorologists felt helpless as their dire forecasts were realized

http://mashable.com/2017/08/30/harvey-flood-left-forecasters-helpless-accurate/#9KWEhLST2kq3

[dirtboy]

Gawd, this column reeks.

I know, I am questioning the evacuation of 10's of millions in Southern and Western Florida, while mocking the Mayor of Houston for not evacuating. Well, my point is not whether or not to evacuate, my point is the computer models we are told are infallible.

No reputable forecaster believes models are infallible. That is why there is a cone of uncertainty around every hurricane forecast track that widens over time.

Think about it, these are the very same people who's computer model said Hurricane Harvey would hit Corpus Christi, then go inland, loop around back into the Gulf, and then slam back into Corpus Christi a second time? Yet, what happened? The darn thing failed to listen to a flawed computer model and instead headed North to Houston where no one was prepared.

More authentic frontier jibberish. The eventual track Harvey took after stalling was pretty much immaterial to Houston. The onset of catastrophic flooding was already underway when Harvey started moving back towards the Gulf.

Seriously, if you are going to bash the AGW crowd, make sure you have your own details straight.