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Can Hurricanes Be Tamed? Scientists Propose Novel Cloud-Seeding Method
Inside Climate News ^ | 10/24/2012 | Robert Krier

Posted on 09/01/2017 9:52:13 AM PDT by EBH

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Now for something more interesting than this climate change...save the planet rubbish...

Actual seeding report....

1 posted on 09/01/2017 9:52:13 AM PDT by EBH
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http://wtwma.com/Daily%20Operations/TPWMA/08242017T.pdf


2 posted on 09/01/2017 9:52:32 AM PDT by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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To: EBH

The mice all agreed, that hanging a bell about the neck of the cat, to warn all of the approach of the cat, was a good idea. Only problem, who was going to hang the bell about the neck of the cat?


3 posted on 09/01/2017 9:57:24 AM PDT by alloysteel (Guilty until proven innocent, while denying defense, justice, mercy or any appeal. No pardon, ever.)
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"Most of the time, he said, there is little understanding of the scale involved."

Understatement of the year.

4 posted on 09/01/2017 10:02:01 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: EBH

5 posted on 09/01/2017 10:02:47 AM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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That was my first reaction on reading the headline: come on, this isn’t the first time this sort of thing has been tried. This time it’s an armada of robot fire boats shooting salt water into the atmosphere. The robot fire boat companies will clean up on the taxpayer’s dime. I’m buying stock.


6 posted on 09/01/2017 10:08:31 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: EBH

“Both Sides Now”
Judy Collins 1968

Bows and flows of angel hair
And ice cream castles in the air
And feathered canyons everywhere
I’ve looked at clouds that way

But now they only block the sun
They rain and snow on everyone
So many things I would have done
But clouds got in my way

I’ve looked at clouds from both sides now
From up and down and still somehow
It’s cloud’s illusions I recall
I really don’t know clouds at all

Moons and Junes and Ferris wheels
The dizzy dancing way you feel
When every fairy tale comes real
I’ve looked at love that way

But now it’s just another show
You leave ‘em laughing when you go
And if you care don’t let them know
Don’t give yourself away

I’ve looked at love from both sides now
From win and lose and still somehow
It’s love’s illusions I recall
I really don’t know love at all

Tears and fears and feeling proud
To say “I love you” right out loud
Dreams and schemes and circus crowds
I’ve looked at life that way

But now old friends are acting strange
They shake their heads, they say I’ve changed
Well something’s lost but something’s gained
In living every day

I’ve looked at life from both sides now
From win and lose and still somehow
It’s life’s illusions I recall
I really don’t know life at all


7 posted on 09/01/2017 10:10:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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ROTFL. I got an email from a woman who is a total tin-foil hat about everything and the link included

““Weather wars” theorists claim Hurricane Harvey was engineered, “steered” toward Houston as a “weather terrorism” weapon”

http://www.naturalnews.com/2017-08-28-weather-wars-theorists-claim-hurricane-harvey-was-engineered-steered-toward-houston-as-a-weather-terrorism-weapon.html

enjoy!


8 posted on 09/01/2017 10:13:29 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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My laymen's common sense analysis ; a hurricane's clouds are already shading and cooling the waters below. Brightening the clouds seems superfluous. I flew around Harvey last week...it was covering, shading, cooling the waters of nearly the entire gulf.

And I still worry about messing with mother nature.

9 posted on 09/01/2017 10:21:50 AM PDT by chiller (If liberals didn't have double standards, they'd have none at all.)
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The latest idea, published in the August issue of the journal Atmospheric Science Letters, comes at it from a new angle and at an opportune moment: A study published last week in the National Academy of Sciences concluded that large, damaging hurricanes will happen with greater frequency as global temperatures climb.

Has anyone checked to see if these studies are plagiarized? How many studies can there be that "concluded that large, damaging hurricanes will happen with greater frequency as global temperature climb."? They have created their own empirical evidence that disproves their findings, REPEATEDLY. According to their own data, over the past 30 years, the number and intensity of hurricanes have decreased AND the global temperatures have climbed.

Now, what was this article about?

10 posted on 09/01/2017 10:22:00 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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"Most of the time, he said, there is little understanding of the scale involved."

Understatement of the year.

"Our answer is that we have been playing God for 200 years by burning fossil fuels, and a lot of damage has been done," Gadian and Latham said. "What we and others are trying to do vis-a-vis global climate change and hurricane weakening is to ameliorate these irresponsible changes.

"Our efforts are restorative. God does not seem to be inclined to intercede."

Translation: We are taking up the slack where God has dropped the ball! We don't need no stinkin' understanding of the scale involved...or of anything else!"

11 posted on 09/01/2017 10:22:52 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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As with any proposed geoengineering solution to climate change, cloud-seeding faces two big barriers: public perception and politics.

3 big barriers. They should include science as one of the big barriers. It seems to be the root cause of the other two "big barriers."

12 posted on 09/01/2017 10:25:24 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being stupid!)
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It’s an ill wind that cries wolf in a crowded hurricane.


13 posted on 09/01/2017 10:30:56 AM PDT by samtheman (As an oil exporter, why would the Russians prefer Trump to Hillary? (Get it or be stupid.))
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...last week in the National Academy of Sciences concluded that large, damaging hurricanes will happen with greater frequency as global temperatures climb.

Unmitigated Bullshit!!


14 posted on 09/01/2017 10:40:30 AM PDT by GoldenPup
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It will never even be tried because of the liability issues.

Let’s say they were to try it on Hurricane Irma now entering the Gulf. The hurricane subsequently hits the Texas coast causing billions in damage. Everyone involved will be sued into bankruptcy.

Did it reduce, increase or have utterly no effect whatsoever on the strength of the storm? Did it cause the storm to change direction and hit someone that would not have otherwise been hit (at the same time saving someone that would have otherwise been hit)? There is no way to know for sure, so I can guarantee that swarms of plaintiffs’ lawyers will say it increased the force of the hurricane and/or caused it to hit people that would not have otherwise been hit.


15 posted on 09/01/2017 10:55:57 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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Or they’ve miscalculated, and will create a MONSTER MEGA HURRICANE.


16 posted on 09/01/2017 10:59:01 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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I’ve always wondered about this idea. What if hurricanes and other weather patterns are a natural release mechanism for energy built up in the atmosphere. To a degree they can be interpreted as such since they are a windflow from high to low pressure and a temperature flow from warm to cold.

If we ‘seed’ to prevent the hurricane formations what happens to all the pent up energy? It isn’t just going to disappear. It’ll move somewhere else or build up until it finally releases in a catastrophic manner.

Oh look we’ve seeded and prevented hurricanes for 5 years aren’t we so smart. Wait, what? It isn’t working this time? It’s building to a Category 10???? There is no category 10....oh you just had to come up with it because we’ve never seen one like this before...Lord help us all....we’ve brought our own destruction....

At least that’s how I envision it....


17 posted on 09/01/2017 11:32:10 AM PDT by reed13k
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whole thing is so absurd...the power, energy and size of these storms ..the mere suggestion that man can alter these in any way in madness. Man, talk about arrogance..geez. When the science of studying these storms wasn’t politicized years ago, the belief was hurricanes were needed, sort of like a relief valve, to transfer heat and energy away from the equator up into the northern latitudes. This was the reason they occurred late in summer and early fall. Some just happen to hit land and where dumb asses insist on building on coastlines so they can have a “heavenly view” when they wake up. The crazy talk of more cat 4 and 5 storms from the climate kooks really annoys me..talk of the sea temps increasing..when actually, the temps have little to do with powerful cat 4 and 5 hurricanes. Upper level shear is what produces the powerful hurricanes. Doesn’t matter if the SST is 500 degrees...if the storm doesn’t have the proper exhaust you’re not getting any hurricane..let alone cat 5’s.


18 posted on 09/01/2017 11:43:57 AM PDT by basalt
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you’re exactly right...its obvious these storms are to transfer the heat build up along the equator...the ones that drift off into the open seas to the northern lats is actually doing its job...some turn late and hit land, wheres fools insist on living on the coastlines...New Orleans cracks me up...if they ever get a cat 5 at just the right angle..up the Mississippi River...forget about it...there wont be a trace of that city left...swept out to sea, never to be seen again.


19 posted on 09/01/2017 11:49:19 AM PDT by basalt
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To: chiller
And I still worry about messing with mother nature.

You might be able to fool Mother Nature for a short while, but Father Time WILL catch up with you.

20 posted on 09/01/2017 12:04:33 PM PDT by libertylover (Inhabitants of Earth with any freedom probably have the USA to thank.)
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