Posted on 08/29/2017 6:44:26 PM PDT by manc
Does this mean in Florida towns cannot take down monuments, or tombs down, remove, or destroy?http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0800-0899/0872/Sections/0872.02.html
Can a lawyer, or a budding lawyer understand this law, and tell me if the a city, or town cannot remove a monument because of this statue.
The law is “whatever”.
I agree, but in our town we are having this debate , because an outside pastor bused other blacks in crying they are afraid of the monuments, and then there was a commie women march group
This has nothing to do w/statues like antifa is tearing down.
These are “monuments” erected at grave sites as in cemeteries. Not the type of things you have in public squares.
I am not admitted in Florida, but “or other structure or thing placed or designed for a memorial of the dead” is rather clear language.
But defense counsel would object the statute was only designed to protect cemeteries, not general memorial statues such as found in public parks where the person so memorialized is not interred.
Think statute would get the State an indictment, but would fail on a judges interpretation of legislative intent, of which I would agree.
Don’t like it, but there it is.
There’s law in this country?
This applies to monuments or markers that have human remains in or under them. However, if you go through the proper channels, you can get permission (after giving public notice and looking for heirs) to move them. So it’s not much protection even for monuments that have human remains, unless some loony decides not to wait for the City Commission to approve it and just tries to dig it up on his own. That’s illegal, but going through the channels to remove them isn’t.
We have a monument in my town that they want to remove because the person whose ashes are under the marker was a Confederate General, among many other things. The other is a monument to the dead from this town, all of them old family names of families that are still here, with nary a Confederate symbol on it. But a local minister is claiming that he’s intimidated by it every time he sees it, so I’m afraid its end is nigh.
Doesn’t mean a thing Nothing. Laws have ceased to mean anything.
We are at the mercy of black-robed egoists for whom the only ‘law’ is their subjective sense of an ideal outcome.
One of the monuments has a Generals ashes underneath it, so would that be classed as a grave, tomb etc?
Just looking at what ever to stop these monuments, and I am not expert in lawyer, legal talk so any help is appreciated please.
Check this one out:
18 U.S. Code § 1369 - Destruction of veterans’ memorials
US Code
(a) Whoever, in a circumstance described in subsection (b), willfully injures or destroys, or attempts to injure or destroy, any structure, plaque, statue, or other monument on public property commemorating the service of any person or persons in the armed forces of the United States shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.
(b) A circumstance described in this subsection is that—
(1) in committing the offense described in subsection (a), the defendant travels or causes another to travel in interstate or foreign commerce, or uses the mail or an instrumentality of interstate or foreign commerce; or
(2) the structure, plaque, statue, or other monument described in subsection (a) is located on property owned by, or under the jurisdiction of, the Federal Government.
It still won't stop ANTIFA and BLM from desecrating graves but it gives one a tool to prosecute after they destroy them.
Are yo in St Augustine where I am talking about? If so then the pastor is form Gainesvile, but come here at the weekend to go to his church.
I went to the pastors church last week where he did not allow us t talk, and then went to the town hall meeting but could not stay to speak .
The way I read it, this statute refers to graves and grave monuments and decorations. It does not apply to civic monuments. So, if Grants Tomb was in Florida it would be illegal to defile it but a statue of Grant in a town square would not be covered by that law.
Yes.
A little off topic but still about Florida laws.
The FHP supervisor who wrote the memo telling State Troopers to write two tickets per hour and then claimed that was not a quota resigned today.
You can’t just say something does not violate the law, then violate it. Florida law specifically bans quotas.
Thanks to all
Just think that this country acted appalled when the Taliban went on their destroy everything spree. Maybe a sizeable portion of America had no problem with it. ISIS started doing the same thing and there was very little outrage and it was suppressed by the media. It just took a pathetic excuse to release the inner Taliban in the leftist scum though. There is no end in sight and the best possible outcome is that this madness burns itself out. Worthless Government,Tyrannical Judges and Eunuch Law Enforcement refuse to stop it.
No difference between ISIS, Taliban destroying monuments than these left wing nuts destroying monuments.
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