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VANITY - Hurricane Harvey. Evac or stay in place?
Vanity | Aug 28 2017 | Steven Tyler

Posted on 08/28/2017 7:11:30 AM PDT by Steven Tyler

Well it's not over. That said, what do Big City Freepers recommend??? 1) Bug out and head for high ground and get stuck in traffic 2) Get cases of water/chlorine tablets and pull that inflatable fishing boat out of storage 3) something else?


TOPICS: Education; Outdoors; Weather
KEYWORDS: bigcity; flood; hurricane; prepper; preppers
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To: a fool in paradise
I'll never forget a story I was told by an American who was assigned to work in the Japanese office of a major U.S. beverage manufacturer He was working in their office in Kobe when the city was damaged heavily by the earthquake in 1995.

He was amazed at how vulnerable the Japanese staff in his office were when their building stopped shaking and everyone understood that this was a major, catastrophic event. Nobody got up and left on their own. He asked one of his fellow workers why the hell everyone was sitting there doing nothing, and the guy said to him: "We can't leave until the boss comes and tells us to leave."

The American guy practically burst out laughing, got up from his desk, and headed to the emergency stairway. He convinced all of his Japanese associates to leave with him when he said: "Does it occur to you that our f#%&ing boss might be dead right now?!"

41 posted on 08/28/2017 7:42:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

If you live In Path of addicks reservoir..check news. I think you have to evacuate


42 posted on 08/28/2017 7:43:32 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Steven Tyler

Stay unless local officials force you to leave.


43 posted on 08/28/2017 7:44:08 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I thought the same thing. My god I’d never go to a Superdome or convention center in a situation like this.

Bugging out...way ahead of the storm.


44 posted on 08/28/2017 7:44:43 AM PDT by EBH ( May God Save the Republic)
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To: Steven Tyler

What do you need to do to survive and not drown? If you have provisions that will support your family and your self and a boat that will hold ya’ll and your provisions, plus some really good rope. You can probably weather it out.

Good Luck & GOD Bless!


45 posted on 08/28/2017 7:45:21 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Prayers for Gods People! Salvation & Restoration!)
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To: Steven Tyler
When the storm is three days out, what is your best option(s)?

You answered it yourself when you said "Big City". In the big city you have to stay or get trapped in an underwater section of freeway.

46 posted on 08/28/2017 7:46:06 AM PDT by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Steven Tyler

Why wasn’t Houston evacuated in the face of Hurricane Harvey? Well, back in 2005, almost as many people died in traffic accidents (100) fleeing Hurricane Rita vs those who stayed behind. So you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t


47 posted on 08/28/2017 7:46:29 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Liberals Do Not Want Children To Be Children)
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To: txrefugee

Something about the early bird...


48 posted on 08/28/2017 7:46:42 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Prayers for Gods People! Salvation & Restoration!)
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To: RummyChick

The city downplayed the risks.

I gassed up on Tuesday and again on Friday.

I got my vehicle worked on Thursday (brake job that would “hold” a few more days but not 2 weeks which is what the delay could be after all of the flooded cars are brought in for repairs).

I was off from work Thursday (by choice) and off Friday (doing prep I didn’t get to do while getting the car worked on).

Reportedly there was a lawyer on the coast warning on twitter of significant rail fall (like 40-50 inches) and someone (the governor?) complained that it was fearmongering about 18-25 inches of rain.

The impact was downplayed especially until the final day of preparation. And after Friday night’s light rainfall, some people expressed doubt that there would even be problems.


49 posted on 08/28/2017 7:47:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: a fool in paradise

Not governor. Dem mayor and judge Emmett downplayed that post. Yet...the post is turning out to be true.

She was warning friends to get out of flood zone. It went viral. Judge emmett jumped on it.

I have been following it because I was viciously attacked for posting it here when I saw it on twitter


50 posted on 08/28/2017 7:57:13 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Evacuation is folly unless your life is in imminent peril.

Are you from New Orleans? Were you in Katrina? If not, your opinion is worthless.


51 posted on 08/28/2017 7:57:27 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: RummyChick

Never been impressed by Judge Emmett(R) or Judge Robert Eckels(R)


52 posted on 08/28/2017 7:59:30 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Romulus

If you are in a flood zone and you know there is potential for 50 inches of rain why would you not pack your valuables and important docs and go to safety until you see if the hurricane turns or you get hit with deluge


53 posted on 08/28/2017 8:01:36 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: SkyDancer

Rita didn’t end up hitting Houston. Never can be certain.

It hit Orange and went up the mid-west flooding northwest Ohio.

We were told to “shelter in place” during Hurricane Ike which was a direct hit on Houston (cat 3).

I left during Rita because I could tell that things were going to be closed for days and days even if there was no rain. And it would be worse had the rain come.


54 posted on 08/28/2017 8:02:25 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: a fool in paradise

The point being you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t. More people were killed in auto accidents than were killed during the storm. That’s the theme of the article.


55 posted on 08/28/2017 8:05:19 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Liberals Do Not Want Children To Be Children)
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To: a fool in paradise

Someone tweeted to trump today about that post warning residents to get out of flood zone


56 posted on 08/28/2017 8:07:07 AM PDT by RummyChick (can we switch Don,Jr for Prince Kush and his flak jacket. From Yacht Party to Warzone ready to wear.)
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To: SkyDancer

I saw a number of accidents on dry roads Friday as people with short fuse tempers were going from gas station to gas station and grocery store to grocery store to “prep” for the storm.

Avoid crowds with be the first take away.


57 posted on 08/28/2017 8:07:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: Steven Tyler

If you are going to stay...this is how we survived the hurricanes (Typhoons) in Okinawa in the early 70s...

Usually we would have no electricity for a week...

as soon as I knew one was coming I washed all the dirty clothes which gave me the washing machine to fill with cold water for faces, hands, bodies...

We had final showers or bathes and I washed the bath out thoroughly and filled it with cold water for drinking and cooking...any water that we might coached from taps in the kitchen would need chlorine during and after the typhoon...

For food I bought big cans of stew, instant soups, etc which I cooked on out camp stove...for light we had hurricane lamps...

our cars were brought inside our little compound, behind the stone walls which were higher than them...

with all the windows closed and taped and the storm shutters locked, it got hot in the house but we weathered it for days at a time...we had food and drink and as my husband was editor of the base newspaper we even put the paper “to bed” during a few of the typhoons, the wind roaring outside...

as military , “GI issue” we were under orders to stay inside until the all clear... we were often home for a whole week or more..

I don’t live in Texas...I did go to basic in San Antonio and I have visited Houston a couple of times and gone on cruises out of Galveston,... but I do know how to prepare for a hurricane...and make it through...

granted we were on higher ground than Houston...but if we weren’t there was nowhere to go...

Texas is a big state and easy to get around...

I’m astounded that people wouldnt use their own good sense and not wait to to be told to GO...


58 posted on 08/28/2017 8:08:18 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Steven Tyler

In 99% of cases, evacuation is for suckers. Most people can’t afford to go anyplace but a shelter. They’ll take away your pets and guns. They won’t allow you to go home when the waters go down. Looters will get to your house before you do. Adrenaline intoxicated first responders with a messiah complex, working for that sweet sweet government funded overtime, will bash your front door open and spray paint on your walls (you’re welcome). There’s an excellent chance the storm will change direction or stall, trapping you and a half million strangers on the side of the road.

Don’t evacuate unless you know your situation to be perilous.


59 posted on 08/28/2017 8:10:49 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: a fool in paradise

OH NOOOOOOEZ

there have been looters...


60 posted on 08/28/2017 8:11:05 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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