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There’s a 'supervolcano' waiting to erupt beneath a seemingly 'beautiful' market....
CNBC ^ | 08/07/2017 | Annie Pei

Posted on 08/07/2017 10:44:59 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Full Headline: There’s a 'supervolcano' waiting to erupt beneath a seemingly 'beautiful' market, according to a portfolio manager

"We went back to 1994 and researched team data that said [that if we look at cyclically adjusted P/E, one out of two times] the market was down in the next 12 months, and about one out of three times it was down more than 10 percent," he said.

James' observations seem to mirror a note released more than a week ago by Goldman Sachs, which found that when valuations have been this high, 10-year returns on the S&P 500 have been either in the single digits or negative 99 percent of the time.

In other words, the market could be in oversold territory, which James does believe.

"It doesn't mean that we'll see a volcanic eruption in the immediate future, and these market peaks take a long time, but we're definitely in the latter stages of this market advance," he said. "We're going to see the inevitable correction, I just wish I could say I knew when."

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bubble; stockmarket; stockmarketwarning
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To: plain talk

Couple of years ago.
Much better ROI dealing cocaine.

Jk


21 posted on 08/07/2017 11:51:08 AM PDT by gymbeau (America...becoming great again!)
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To: DannyTN

You’re a Genius!


22 posted on 08/07/2017 11:55:16 AM PDT by crusher2013
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To: BenLurkin
Just my two bits, but the market is fine if a little rich for fundamentals.

What investors are doing is anticipating the growth in earnings that will be forthcoming from the changes in regulations and from the much anticipated reform of the tax code. Additionally, investors know that there is a huge pent-up demand that was stifled for fear during the Obama administration.

Investors are saying (by voting with their capital) that they see very positive things coming down the pike.

Alan Greenspan can stick his concern of "irrational exuberance" where the sun don't shine.

23 posted on 08/07/2017 11:56:42 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: wbill

Econo-misseds...................


24 posted on 08/07/2017 12:00:50 PM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: BenLurkin

November will be ‘Tis the Season’ for MSM talking down the market and the economy.
The talking points start now.


25 posted on 08/07/2017 12:02:29 PM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: Wuli

So true.
Everything that goes up can go down ... either slowly or all at once. Has zero to do with how is in the White House at any particular time.


26 posted on 08/07/2017 12:03:18 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: BenLurkin
"We're going to see the inevitable correction, I just wish I could say I knew when."

Market crash predictors have a slightly better track record than do predictors of End Times. Just slightly better.

27 posted on 08/07/2017 12:07:57 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Take Covfefe Ree Zig!)
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To: Red Badger

I tend to want to sell property when guys on the radio are selling house flipping seminars and stock market tips and tricks. But do not take my advice because I have $35 silver coins sitting in desk drawer.


28 posted on 08/07/2017 12:10:17 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: BenLurkin

Run in circles! Scream and shout!


29 posted on 08/07/2017 12:10:22 PM PDT by simpson96
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To: Wuli

And the actual PE ratio is somewhat high, but not crazy. The ratio this guy is referring to is the “cycle adjusted index” but that assumes a recession every 7 years. If this one doesn’t come for 12-14, then the model is bunk.


30 posted on 08/07/2017 12:12:38 PM PDT by rb22982
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To: BenLurkin

This morning, I read a stock advisor newsletter, listing many stocks with recommendations to buy or sell. I noticed that all the buy recommendation stocks were at their 52 week highs. So much for buy low, sell high.


31 posted on 08/07/2017 12:17:55 PM PDT by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: BenLurkin

Here we go again... between this and the noise from the NY Slimes, the “media” are recruiting self-styled experts to talk down the economy. They know the strengthening economy is a strong point for Trump and they want to knock a hole in it in short order.


32 posted on 08/07/2017 12:31:20 PM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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To: Red Badger
:-)

The market goes up, and the market goes down. On average and as a whole over the long term.... it goes up.

33 posted on 08/07/2017 12:33:38 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Sawdring
:-)

When I was travelling for work, I used to read "USA Today". Was a great barometer for the market.

"Things are Great! Nowhere to go but up! To the moon! Mortgage your house, invest the money!!", meant "Sell! Sell! Sell!"

"Worst economy in World History! Only a fool would buy into this market! Panic! Run around in the streets!", meant "Buy Everything!"

Worked great, I did pretty well for a number of years.

I don't read it anymore, I'm not all that interested in changing investments that I currently have.

34 posted on 08/07/2017 12:38:25 PM PDT by wbill
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To: BenLurkin
The Obama market was a bubble. I think what Trump is trying to do with his economic program is to try to engineer a smooth transition from a stock market based on injections of printed money to a stock market based on companies actually making stuff and doing stuff.
35 posted on 08/07/2017 12:59:32 PM PDT by snarkpup (The swamp is draining; and the alligators are allegating.)
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To: ScottinVA

There’s the economy and there’s the stock market.

They are two different things.


36 posted on 08/07/2017 1:28:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.))
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To: BenLurkin

Is this same genius who keeps telling us silver is going to take off?


37 posted on 08/07/2017 1:39:39 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

My first thought was that volcanos explode upward. And a volcano underneath the market would be AWESOME for anyone long the market.

I think sink hole instead of volcano would match the author’s sentiment better.


38 posted on 08/07/2017 3:56:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: BenLurkin

I understand that; however, the trend in the stock market is a reflection of investor confidence in the economy.


39 posted on 08/08/2017 4:11:51 AM PDT by ScottinVA ( Liberals, go find another country.)
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