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Posted on 05/07/2017 9:52:34 AM PDT by Stopthethreat
As Hillary continues her Excuse Tour I am always reminded of the collapse seen 'round the world. For me this was the turning point, the wake up call. After the reelection of Obama I figured America was doomed, the fix was in, this was our last chance etc. So I just started tuning out on America's decline. Figured i couldnt do much more than just bend over and take it. Then Hillary became the Uniparty's chosen candidate and while I loved Trump and would be voting for him I knew democracy was dead and he would merely be playing the role of the losing Republican candidate.
Then the collapse occurred and suddenly I was jolted from my apathetic slumber. I felt hope and smelled a lot of blood in the water. The sleeping giant, silent majority also awoke and everyone really started paying attention. Despite the despicable attempts by the media to lie and cover up, the public started actively seeking and learning the awful truth about Hillary through Wikileaks, blogs, talk radio which of course caused the media to come up with the term FAKE NEWS to describe anything which does not fit their narrative. (this is now backfiring on them nicely) even more people became more outraged and disgusted with the democrat/media complex which naturally led to even more lies and coverups. Meanwhile support for Trump was grpwing in numbers and enthusiam.
So was the collapse possibly the salient event that turned the tide and may have changed the course of history?
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Here’s my best speculation re who saw the video. First, many, many Trump supporters watched it. It was gigantic news on every conservative platform. I remember it so vividly. First we had an eyewitness account, and the sinking feeling that no one would care without video.
Then the video broke, and people really went wild. It truly did look like the end of the Hillary campaign.
I’m guessing quite a few Bernie supporters watched it too. Maybe it was a kind of salve on their fury over the scummy way their candidate had been treated.
Quite a few Hillary supporters watched it. They had to find out how best to neutralize/downplay it.
Probably not many regular voters sought out the original. They watched the edited version the MSM was purveying, shrugged off the “stumble,” and moved on.
That’s my speculation. If it weren’t close to the truth, the election *would* have ended that day.
But it didn’t.
Instead of saying the ‘election,’ would have ended, I should have said Hillary’s campaign would have been finished.
Good question; in the late summer of '16 I began verbalizing the premonition that a Black Swan Event was coming, but there were so many strong possibilities in the mix that it was Impossible to identify the most likely possibility, but it had to involve mainly either Hillary or Trump.
Go figure that Hillary was the sole threat from both directions. She was utterly unable to list her achievements of the previous 8 years. Flying around the world a million miles is an activity, not an achievement. Anyone with a government credit card can do that.
Desperately scraping the gutter for any negative story about Trump, even if it was 40 years old didn't help. Ignoring her own enabling of the First Rapist only 20 years previously and Actually creating the White House War Room for that sole purpose, although never mentioned, also played a role.
Ignoring her obvious bad health and her drugged up behavior in public didn't win her any new supporters, and embarrassed the supporters she had for no other reason than she was a (slightly insane) woman and she was not Donald Trump.
Not enough reason to trust the welfare of the country into the hands of a sick, neurotic, alcoholic, Fat, Ugly, Criminal, Cow and her Foreign Money Protection Racket; Kindergarten humor about illegal use of government National Security data and a memory so bad she was sure to lose the Nuclear Football (or sell it) within a month of being elected.
The normal American electorate didn't buy the BS then, and they certainly wouldn't buy it now.
Perhaps it is necessary to prosecute her for her criminal 20-year record of treasonous behavior so Trump can concentrate of solving the real mess created by 8 years of Barack enemies foreign and Hillary's enemies domestic double whammy...
Wow. Thank God for Pres. Trump.
BTW, in a normal election cycle, no candidate would have survived the Billy Bush videotape either, as Trump did.
The fact that Trump won, despite the massive array of all that was against him, illustrates just how weak a candidate Hillary was and while we can only speculate, I think that 9/11 video did a lot of damage to her, even though her supporters probably don't want to admit is. Just like many of us don't want to admit how devastating that Billy Bush videotape really was.
On September 11, I honestly believed that Hillary was finished. And while I supported Trump throughout, I honestly thought that Trump was finished the weekend that the Billy Bush tape came out. I remember that Saturday being at an Octoberfest festival somewhere in CT and getting deep into my cups because I didn't want to think about Hillary as our next president.
It was not your normal election, that is for sure.
There’s a real tendency to project in cases like this. We figure since we’ve seen the video multiple times, a few times even in slow motion, discussed it at length and read numerous, excellent articles on it, others have too. In fact, only our fellow political junkies took it that seriously. Most watched the MSM’s edited version, accepted that Hillary “stumbled,” and shrugged it off. I don’t even recall Hillary’s numbers taking any kind of significant dip in the aftermath.
All I felt about Trump’s locker room talk was fury that certain people were blowing it out of proportion. I think by that point the MSM had simply tried to take Trump down too many times. People were just getting tired of the nonstop hit jobs. Had the tape been utilized differently, it would likely have hurt Trump more.
I forgot one thing that mitigated the tape. Namely, that a lot of people already felt like they knew Trump. They’d watched him on The Apprentice. They hadn’t seen a flirtatious, hound dog type; they’d seen a consumate professional. So when the press tried to tell them Trump was just the opposite, it was a hard sell.
Fortunately.
Speaking for myself, there was no way I was changing my vote that weekend. But I did get dispirited coming here to Free Republic and seeing so many Freepers declaring that it was all over. Then I saw a thread here that even Mike Pence was jumping ship (later determined to be a false report) and that's about when I closed my laptop and decided to tune out for while. My wife took pity upon me and found me that Octoberfest event. That definitely helped to take my mind off politics.
That’s how I see it too. I can understand how it would have been depressing to hear a lot of conservatives say Trump was finished. I don’t recall going through that, which leads me to believe I must have spent the worst of those days on r/The_Donald. Nothing fazes them over there; they just go harder pro-Trump when anything negative comes up. They’re a very bracing crew.
I’ve tried to tell a few of our resident gloom and doomers that they’re driving people away. Nothing penetrates. They may not be entirely behind Trump on a good day, so bad news just gets them fired up.
Glad your wife was understanding and helpful. What a blessing.
Well, if the gop doesn’t care about the dem cheating there isn’t much hope. They might care if they get primaried.
We could solve countless problems by primarying a few of the worst GOP offenders. Why more of the Elitist Establishment isn’t routinely kicked out I’ll never know.
It was shortly after that when I discovered r/The_Donald. It’s a totally different atmosphere over there. No room for doom and gloomers - they are quickly run off. I still prefer FR for the more substantive dialogue. Over there, it’s more about one-liners and memes. But it’s a fun place to go, especially if you need your spirits lifted.
On The_Donald anybody not gung ho for Trump gets promptly ‘deported,’ from the sub. I like that aspect of it. The remaining community is tightly bonded—huge though it may be.
Agree, though, that often more sustained conversation takes place here. They’re two very different places.
...maybe she ought to write a book about her struggle.
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