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Angry United Airlines pilots' union issue statement denying ALL responsibility for forcible...
daily mail uk ^ | April 14, 2017 | Stephanie Haney For Dailymail.com and Ariel Zilber For Dailymail.com and Associated Press

Posted on 04/14/2017 7:11:42 AM PDT by Morgana

FULL TITLE: Angry United Airlines pilots' union issue statement denying ALL responsibility for forcible removal of doctor last week and say Chicago cops are to blame

The United Airline's pilots union released a statement on Thursday regarding Dr. David Dao's violent removal from Flight 3411 originating out of Chicago on Sunday.

The union contended that the Chicago Department of Aviation's 'grossly inappropriate response' was to blame for the events that transpired, according to the United Master Executive Council's statement.

The United Master Executive Council represents the airline's 12,500 pilots.

The statement also pointed out that the plane from which Dr. Dao was ejected was one of which that was separately owned and operated by Republic Airlines.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: ual; united; unitedairlines
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To: Morgana
For simplifications sake, let's suppose the plane has a capacity for 100 passengers. They board the plane, and all the seats are filled. The plane is not "overbooked," it is full.

A situation came up where United needed to get 4 people to Louisville. So 4 people needed to give up their seats. 3 people volunteered, but it wasn't quite enough. And the rest is history.

21 posted on 04/14/2017 7:38:42 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Morgana

One of the reports I read said that Dao has hired top Chicago personal injury and corporate law attorneys.


22 posted on 04/14/2017 7:41:10 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: mulligan
Dao was responsible for what happened. He should be in jail.

You should be in jail.

As hard as you've power bottomed for the airport police in these threads, you'd get off on it.

23 posted on 04/14/2017 7:42:50 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: PAR35

They didn’t overbook. They just sold tickets for a scheduled departure for which they couldn’t seat all the paying passengers.


24 posted on 04/14/2017 7:43:45 AM PDT by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Morgana

This should been done at Check-in


25 posted on 04/14/2017 7:44:09 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Morgana

Trouble is ahead. Instead of circling the wagons, segments of United are headed for the tall grass and throwing others under the bus. Pure damage control.


26 posted on 04/14/2017 7:44:31 AM PDT by CASchack
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To: mulligan

Amen.


27 posted on 04/14/2017 7:44:42 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Morgana
Being beaten and dragged off a plane is a life changing event..


28 posted on 04/14/2017 7:45:29 AM PDT by Dallas59 (Only a fool stumbles on things behind him.)
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To: Morgana

The flight was not overbooked. United has finally admitted that much. They wanted to throw off paying customers in order to get a crew to the destination at the last minute. They should have continued to up the price of the compensation until they had 4 volunteeers.


29 posted on 04/14/2017 7:46:26 AM PDT by FamiliarFace
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To: Morgana

I thought they always said the captain is the final authority onboard the plane.

(Execpt maybe when it’s docked at the terminal and then he can blame everything off on some groundside clerk?)


30 posted on 04/14/2017 7:46:39 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Morgana
United pilot going to work.
31 posted on 04/14/2017 7:47:35 AM PDT by Gamecock (Twitter: What a real democracy looks like.)
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To: Morgana

We’ll see what the court says.


32 posted on 04/14/2017 7:48:06 AM PDT by Gamecock (Twitter: What a real democracy looks like.)
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To: mulligan

You know I’m just stubborn enough that if they tried to make me leave a plane after I’m seated I’d probably refuse too. I’ve taken their offer of money and a hotel for a layover once but it was while we were still waiting to board. Once I’m on the plane I’d probably refuse to leave too. A lot of people would.


33 posted on 04/14/2017 7:49:22 AM PDT by sheana
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To: mulligan

What you posted about Dao being responsible for what happened is absolutely 100% not true. The man paid for his ticket, peacefully boarded the plane, took his seat and just as peacefully settled in for the flight. He did not initiate anything that happened afterwards but only responded. He had his reasons for not volunteering to give up his seat. Airline personnel singled him out for intimidation and bullying when he didn’t voluntarily give up his seat. The airport security personnel then took it to the next level. This was totalitarian impulses writ large.


34 posted on 04/14/2017 7:49:56 AM PDT by Avalon Memories (Compromise is NOT a dirty word. It's how human society functions every day.)
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To: Morgana

The drama queen Dao said his experience was worse than the Vietkong he experienced. Drama Queen Dao. Guys like him are what make everyday living crappy. Whether it’s at the store, driving, or on a plane. He thinks he is more important than you or me and he doesn’t have to follow directions when it suits him. And he’s a drama queen to boot........fool.


35 posted on 04/14/2017 7:49:56 AM PDT by vespa300
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To: Enterprise

They didn’t volunteer, they simply didn’t object when told to leave, is my understanding.


36 posted on 04/14/2017 7:49:56 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: mulligan
So lets see if I follow you logic correctly. Lets say I am replacing my front door with a new door that I really like that happens to be the last one the store has in stock. I make the purchase, bring the door home and have it installed, but wait! One of the store employees decides that they want that very door, and given that it is the last one in stock, the owner of said store demands that I remove it from my house and give it to his employee. When I of course say NO, the police are called, the door is ripped from its hinges doing damage to my home in the process and I am the one going to jail? Just trying to follow your logic.
37 posted on 04/14/2017 7:52:34 AM PDT by bella1 (Je suis deplorable)
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To: Morgana

HAS THE IQ OF FREEPERS DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY RECENTLY?

THE AIRLINE DID NOT ‘OVERBOOK’ ON PURPOSE AND THEN SUDDENLY DECIDE THEY WANTED TO GIVE PAID SEATS TO NON-PAYING AIRLINE EMPLOYEES.

WHEN THEY HAVE TO MOVE PILOTS AND CREW THEY HAVE NO CHOICE. OTHERWISE HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS MORE PASSENGERS WOULD BE DELAYED AS PILOT SHORTAGE CASCADES OUTWARDS.

IF A FLIGHT IS CANCELLED OR DELAYED AT A *DIFFERENT* AIRPORT, THEN THE DESTINATION NEEDS NEW PILOTS.

GOOGLE “MUST FLY” - THEY HAVE NO CHOICE IT IS ACTUALLY LAW.


38 posted on 04/14/2017 7:54:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (***THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE OF OBAMACARE REPEAL THAT IS WORSE THAN KEEPING IT ONE MORE DAY***)
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To: Snickering Hound
Dao's attorney kept mentioning that the pilot is in charge of the aircraft during his press conference yesterday.

True. According to the Fed. Aviation Rules the Captain is in charge and responsible the moment he/she steps on board. However, like in so many other cases there is a shared responsibility until the door is closed and the boarding ramp removed. That will be determined in court. In this case the flight deck crew may not have even known what was going on in the cabin as they are isolated in a locked and secured cockpit.

39 posted on 04/14/2017 7:55:15 AM PDT by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: Morgana

Ahhhhhhh.....now we’re getting down to the heart of the matter.

Thousands of Press people in this country and not one of them is interested in talking to the pilot?

Seems kind of strange.

It’s like they’re covering for the pilot.

Let’s hear from him/her.


40 posted on 04/14/2017 7:55:21 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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