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A Poll, did you support Trump or Freedom Caucus?

Posted on 03/27/2017 5:04:01 PM PDT by MNDude

I've heard a lot of differing views directing anger, disappointment and relief at the various parties in Washington lately.

So I'm wanting to take a poll.

Did you support passage of Trump's and Ryan's healthcare bill? Or Did you support Freedom Caucus stopping it?


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To: freedumb2003

Ryan has a two page executive summary of ye bill on his webpage. It’s pure obamacare with the exception of letting the exchanges group in with several states, a change in the way medicare is funded, and a new commission to be sure there is no cherry picking of low risk customers. And that our bills are transparent.

I’ll still have to pay for reproductive services, and nobody will see any drop in the skyrocketed rates.

Ryan got serviced by the insurance lobby, and he intended to service us. Maybe I need reproductive coverage after all!

And anyone who believes there was going to be further more serious reforms during midterms has a screw loose.


21 posted on 03/27/2017 5:13:54 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: MNDude
The Patriot photo: Patriot Freedom.jpg

Hold the line!

22 posted on 03/27/2017 5:14:44 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: MNDude
A Poll, did you support Trump or Freedom Caucus?

That's a strangely couched question, because it's entirely legitimate to support both.

For instance, I supported the HFC's opposition to the bill, and I also supported the President's decision to move on, and not drag out the negotiations indefinitely in an act of desperation.

Perhaps it would have been better to have a vote, even if it failed, because then everyone would have been on record.

If the question was "Do you support the House Freedom Caucus or Paul Ryan", it would make much more sense, but trying to conflate elements of the legislative branch with the President just doesn't correspond, IMHO.

Don't forget the Freedom Caucus gave the President a standing ovation in their most recent meeting.

So your poll is weird.

It's important to distinguish between rhetoric which is put out for the public's consumption, versus what really happens behind the scenes...

23 posted on 03/27/2017 5:15:27 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: MNDude

I proudly stand with the HFC.


24 posted on 03/27/2017 5:15:52 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Drone Soros and sons!!!)
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To: traderrob6

>>I support Trump 95% of the time but the HC bill was a piece of crap so the FC was right on this.<<

It wasn’t “his.” He did a good job of keeping his hands far away from it.

This was ALL ryan and it stunk out of the gate.

They should have repealed first and been willing to take the heat for those who would lose coverage. Instead, all but the HC cowered in fear.


25 posted on 03/27/2017 5:16:01 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Not tired of winning yet!)
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To: MNDude
I support them both, but I do say that Trump had no business criticizing them for pushing back against a GOP House bill that:

(1) had the support of only 17% of the American people;

(2) didn't address any of the items in Trump's own seven-point plan for health care reform from his 2016 campaign; and

(3) didn't even reflect the points Trump made in his address to the joint session of Congress only a few days before the bill was rolled out.

26 posted on 03/27/2017 5:16:04 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: MNDude

I supported stopping the bill but disapprove of the dishonorable way the FC did it. Left a very bad taste in my mouth and I seriously doubt President Trump should trust them until they make it clear they can be trusted


27 posted on 03/27/2017 5:16:06 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: MNDude

I support Trump
and Freedom clown can go to hell


28 posted on 03/27/2017 5:16:47 PM PDT by jennychase
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To: MNDude

Fc


29 posted on 03/27/2017 5:17:39 PM PDT by katykelly
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To: sargon

I’m not sure how this poll is wierd. There was no third option in the vote.


30 posted on 03/27/2017 5:17:40 PM PDT by MNDude (God is not a Republican, but Satan is certainly a Democrat)
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To: MNDude

FC. Health care is a states issue.


31 posted on 03/27/2017 5:17:45 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: MNDude
I supported this bill only because Trump seemed to think he could do something with it. And, at this point, I still respect Trump's commitment to turning things around. I am not sorry this ridiculous bill failed and stand behind the Freedom Caucus, at least those who didn't exhibit the genetic Republican invertebrate tendencies when they were targeted.
32 posted on 03/27/2017 5:17:49 PM PDT by Yogafist
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To: MNDude

Straight repeal or nothing.


33 posted on 03/27/2017 5:17:52 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: Spiridon
Practically everything you posted is wrong...how old are you!!!
34 posted on 03/27/2017 5:18:17 PM PDT by ontap
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To: MNDude

Trump


35 posted on 03/27/2017 5:18:37 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: TalBlack

Most of the FC people voted for Ryan and Boehner to be Speaker in the past.

They are fronting for “Never Trump” along with the usual suspects Levin and Beck.


36 posted on 03/27/2017 5:19:12 PM PDT by Spiridon
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To: MNDude

FC!


37 posted on 03/27/2017 5:20:15 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: MNDude

President Trump and Paul Ryan are to blame. The freedon caucus saved our a$$es on this thing!!!


38 posted on 03/27/2017 5:20:17 PM PDT by ontap
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To: MNDude

FC


39 posted on 03/27/2017 5:20:28 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper (Homer no function beer well without)
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To: MNDude
Both Ryan and the FC are the ones at fault here, with Trump not realizing what Stockholm syndrome fools ALL Republicans have become. That is his fault, and probably a lesson learned.

I hope they can piece it back together again, but it will be on Trump's shoulders to resurrect it. The FC and Ryan are equally culpable in destroying a bill process (yes FCers, it had to be a three step process) that would have gotten us three quarters of what we wanted, along with the defunding of Planned Parenthood, and a genuine repeal of Obummercare.

I doubt we can get any better than that. I hope we can even get that much now.

40 posted on 03/27/2017 5:20:37 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Be resolved to help!)
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