Conservative Republicans are Today's Biggest Losers

Kinvig on Politics ^ | 3-24-17 | Cameron Kinvig

[boycott]

You’re correct. Republicans are the biggest losers.

Hopefully they can turn their attention to a healthcare bill that’s good for the American people.

[b4its2late]

The Freedom Caucas saved the day.

[arthurus]

If this thing had passed, it would be still be obamacare with some of the funding stripped out so that it would be less useful than before and would now be TrumpCare which would be distancing Medicine from the middle class and continuing the deterioration of Medicine for those who can still afford it.

Obamacare Trumpcare.

[Alberta's Child]

I didn't say I was happy that the bill failed. I had nothing at stake here, since I figured out last year how to get an Obamacare waiver anyway.

My only interest in it was that it would be a political disaster for the GOP Congress and President Trump to pass an "Obamacare fix" bill in March 2017 -- only to have millions of Americans face disastrous increases in their insurance premiums in October and November because the "fix" didn't do a damn thing to help them.

[4Liberty]

More Swampcare would have just shifted the stink to GOP. Let it stay a Rat problem til real reform is passed. Winning! 🇺🇸😀👏🏼👍

[Yogafist]

Yeah that might happen. And Trump will be a one term punch line to a joke on SNL.

[WhatNot]

Well Odummy’s care is here to stay now, thanks!

[TBP]

Typical Establishment RINO garbage.

Conservatives proved they can stand up to Ryan (and the rest of the party), and if President Trump really wants to drain the swamp, he can’t do it with half measures (if that), and he can’t do it without us.

As long as conservatives stand on principle, we win.

[Alberta's Child]

There's nothing that prevents Congress from starting work next week on a real Obamacare repeal bill that actually fixes the disastrous problems of Obamacare. If "Odummy's care is here to stay now," it's because Congress doesn't want to deal with it.

Don't blame me for the ineffective leadership in Congress.

[Owen]

You might want to question the bonafides of a bunch of guys NeverTrump Koch Bros are funding. They committed to stopping the Trump agenda.

They sure succeeded in this. I doubt Trump’s people were aware of it. Ryan was probably telling them all of his conference are principled people. Probably Ryan didn’t know about the Koch connection, either.

[af_vet_1981]

Okay, you are satisfied with Obamacare and Planned Parenthood funding; lots Democrats are happy too, especially that President Trump was defeated and publicly humiliated by conservatives in his own party.

[WhatNot]

I don’t blame you personally, I blame all those who can’t see the forest through the trees.

[cornfedcowboy]

Ryan’s Pac has pulled millions of campaign $$ away from reps that refused to sign the bill. Huge $$. It is reported David Young from central Iowa is losing $1.6 million in campaign funds.

[Jane Long]

Ryan was probably telling them all of his conference are principled people. Probably Ryan didn’t know about the Koch connection, either.

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You mean the same Ryan that is FUNDED by the Koch Bros???? That Ryan???

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/08/14/the-big-money-behind-paul-ryans-political-career

.....The vice presidential nominee’s campaign finance record is not without some minor controversy. To begin with, he has long been a favorite of the libertarian billionaires Charles and David Koch. Before entering Congress, Ryan worked with a conservative group that would eventually merge with a Koch brothers’ group to become FreedomWorks, a leading sponsor of the Tea Party movement. Their mutual interests in libertarianism could explain why the private energy corporation Koch Industries has given Ryan more than $65,000 over his career.

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Geez....give it up.

[WhatNot]

I guess I’m old fashion, if my team wants to win the Superbowl, they have to first win enough games to get there. Once they win enough to get to the Superbowl, they got a great opportunity to win all the marbles.

[sam_whiskey]

The problem now is that it sounds like the conservatives won’t have a seat at the table when healthcare finally gets addressed in the future according to Trump.

[arthurus]

None of that will turn anyone on the left. Their near goal is to get everyone “covered” which means that very few can afford the medical care that is left from the practitioners who remain but everyone will have “insurance.” The left doesn’t care a bit about whether you or I live or die or can afford to see a doctor. Even conservatives have bought the delusion that Insurance is what counts, not so much actual medical access. The middle goal is for Single Payer for which the designed in failure of obamacare is intended. The long goal is, of course, total control. That which is not prohibited is mandated.

[Jane Long]

I hate the mandate and this Ryan bill would have at least freed me from the mandate.

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The mandate was still there. You would’ve just paid it to the insurance companies, via your new policy (30% surcharge), rather than to the govt. That’s one reason so many opposed it.

[Alberta's Child]

Uh — whut?

[arthurus]

I believe there was only one vote against Paul Ryan. For that reason I am skeptical of ALL he Republicans in Congress. They will not cooperate in anything that diminishes their take from the Chamber of Commerce or, for more of them than I like to think about, their Soros stipend.