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Conservative Republicans are Today's Biggest Losers
Kinvig on Politics ^ | 3-24-17 | Cameron Kinvig

Posted on 03/24/2017 8:05:54 PM PDT by ckinv368

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To: cornfedcowboy

I do not doubt it. Never was a fan of Ryan & Romney.


81 posted on 03/24/2017 9:13:22 PM PDT by entropy12 (Enough winning Mr President already!)
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To: Alberta's Child

My point is repeal of Odummy care is dead in the water now.


82 posted on 03/24/2017 9:15:12 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: Yaelle

Remove the government totally from the medical and insurance fields and the market will give the optimal level of access and the quality of care will go up as the price declines. Every “plan” that requires “coverage” or mandates access will diminish access and quality, taking all of it out of range of an ever larger portion of an ever shrinking middle class.


83 posted on 03/24/2017 9:16:20 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: WhatNot

It was dead in the water before today, too.


84 posted on 03/24/2017 9:17:44 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 Characters at a Time)
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To: arthurus
Yeah, what a bunch of hypocrites that Freedom Caucus is, ether that or they are the dumbest people to ever walk the halls of Congress, and look at all the folks here applauding them.

DISGUSTING!!

85 posted on 03/24/2017 9:19:25 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: ckinv368
The Republican effort to repeal and replace Obamacare—the American Health Care Act—finally came up for a final vote in the House.

Um, no. It was pulled before any vote...

86 posted on 03/24/2017 9:21:05 PM PDT by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Well, there was at least a miniscule hope, but thanks to the hypocritical FC, that hope has been dashed.


87 posted on 03/24/2017 9:21:24 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: Jane Long

I have not had a chance to read the entire bill. But I did tune into many hours of congressional hearings, and every republican repeated that there will be no mandate to buy any particular set of coverages. That 30% you mention is for those who need a subsidy, and the subsidy money goes directly to insurance companies.

What was lacking in this bill was, nothing on tort reform, nothing on buying insurance across state lines, nothing about drug price negotiation, nothing about importing drugs from Canada, and too many subsidies to too many people.


88 posted on 03/24/2017 9:22:16 PM PDT by entropy12 (Enough winning Mr President already!)
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To: af_vet_1981
But, a bi-partisan effort guarantees that the Freedom Caucus will be locked out of negotiations, with the bill too centrist for their taste.

I'm not so sure that a significantly bipartisan effort will occur. What Dems can or will significantly change their position, regardless of the evidence? Another year or two of this debacle should give conservatives lots of time to further make their case about WHY this sort of program is doomed to failure, even as millions are harmed by its failure. If it was me, I would argue: "Look at what's going on, and why. We can't have anything like this, without the same or a worse result."

Of course the sad part is the millions who will be harmed.

89 posted on 03/24/2017 9:24:23 PM PDT by Paul R.
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To: ckinv368

No! The biggest loser is that weasel Paul Ryan. I really hope it costs him the speakers chair.


90 posted on 03/24/2017 9:25:38 PM PDT by Bullish (May as well just rename Hollywood---> Hypocrite city)
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To: humblegunner

Get in here!
A blog pimp is begging for a beating.


91 posted on 03/24/2017 9:25:54 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Carl Vehse

What a con game.


92 posted on 03/24/2017 9:30:18 PM PDT by Bogie
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The media “pundits” can’t seem to agree. Conservatives are the winners in this article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3537899/posts


93 posted on 03/24/2017 9:30:35 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Bullish

Don’t count on that, I’m sure those hypocritical FC members will vote for him again.


94 posted on 03/24/2017 9:31:26 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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To: Jane Long

That’s pathetic. $65K over a career? Would that buy a cup of weekend coffee for him and his staff over the career? Probably most of it as Romney’s VP pick.

Go look up Koch and NeverTrump. This wasn’t about Ryan. It was about backstabbing Trump. Ryan didn’t even have to be there and they would have obstructed.

They hate Trump.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/charles-koch-explains-donors-why-he-won-t-support-trump-n620621


95 posted on 03/24/2017 9:35:36 PM PDT by Owen
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To: Paul R.
Conservatives cannot make their case; they just insult those they disagree with in a circular firing squad until no one is pure enough for the dwindling caucus.

President Trump will have to offer Democrats alot to get a Grand Bargain. President Obama was not willing to offer the Republicans enough to get their votes in such a deal. We shall see. Planned Parenthood will continue to be funded thanks to what the freedom caucus did today.
96 posted on 03/24/2017 9:39:53 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: boycott

They overplayed their hand... they are the big losers and if you think otherwise you are naive.

If Obamacare continues and it implodes.. which it almost certainly will, doing something about it becomes a priority for all involved... and if democrats get on board the bill created will certainly be far worse as far as what the freedom caucus would like and Trump and others won’t need their votes to pass it.. so their impact will be minimal to none.

Trump just won big, even though it’s being spun as a loss, because people are so short sighted.

Trump just showed he’d walk away... and not did he walk away when the anger as to what just happen manefests. It won’t be at Trump. For 7 years the republican brand has marketed itself on getting rid of Obamacare... and when they finally had all they needed.. they didn’t get it done. You can argue the failings or merits of the bill all day, it won’t matter... The R brand took a huge Hit... not that voters wanting it gone will vote D next time... but they will stay home... especially if you look in any way responsible for failing to do what you campaigned on for nearly a decade.

Trump will move on to other things, but don’t think he lost.. there is now no doubt in Washington that Trump will walk away, something politicians are not used to. These guys completely overplayed their hand just like Dems did when they put Obamacare on the books in the first place


97 posted on 03/24/2017 9:44:05 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Owen

That was just for in 2012.

They’ve given him over $100K, over the years.

It compares to what INSURANCE companies have given him, though....

Northwestern Mutual ~ $258,360
Blue Cross/Blue Shield ~ $144,250
Koch Industries ~ $130,422


98 posted on 03/24/2017 9:48:18 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: WhatNot

Let’s see.

If you oppose the Freedom Caucus you favor Ryan.

If you oppose the Freedom Caucus you also favor Trump.

Ryan and Trump both are pushing the same flawed garbage.

What is disgusting is hypocritical fools that can’t see that Trump and the RINOs running Congress are equivalent. Trump equals RINO.


99 posted on 03/24/2017 9:51:34 PM PDT by Oklahoma
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To: Carl Vehse

Yes.

A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

A smelly goat by any other name (RynoCare, TrumpCare, etc etc) would stink just as bad. And the stink would have been on Republicans.


100 posted on 03/24/2017 9:58:21 PM PDT by boxlunch (Pray for Donald Trump's safety, for his family and cabinet. Make America Good Again!)
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