Posted on 03/24/2017 8:05:54 PM PDT by ckinv368
I do not doubt it. Never was a fan of Ryan & Romney.
My point is repeal of Odummy care is dead in the water now.
Remove the government totally from the medical and insurance fields and the market will give the optimal level of access and the quality of care will go up as the price declines. Every “plan” that requires “coverage” or mandates access will diminish access and quality, taking all of it out of range of an ever larger portion of an ever shrinking middle class.
It was dead in the water before today, too.
DISGUSTING!!
Um, no. It was pulled before any vote...
Well, there was at least a miniscule hope, but thanks to the hypocritical FC, that hope has been dashed.
I have not had a chance to read the entire bill. But I did tune into many hours of congressional hearings, and every republican repeated that there will be no mandate to buy any particular set of coverages. That 30% you mention is for those who need a subsidy, and the subsidy money goes directly to insurance companies.
What was lacking in this bill was, nothing on tort reform, nothing on buying insurance across state lines, nothing about drug price negotiation, nothing about importing drugs from Canada, and too many subsidies to too many people.
I'm not so sure that a significantly bipartisan effort will occur. What Dems can or will significantly change their position, regardless of the evidence? Another year or two of this debacle should give conservatives lots of time to further make their case about WHY this sort of program is doomed to failure, even as millions are harmed by its failure. If it was me, I would argue: "Look at what's going on, and why. We can't have anything like this, without the same or a worse result."
Of course the sad part is the millions who will be harmed.
No! The biggest loser is that weasel Paul Ryan. I really hope it costs him the speakers chair.
Get in here!
A blog pimp is begging for a beating.
What a con game.
The media “pundits” can’t seem to agree. Conservatives are the winners in this article:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3537899/posts
Don’t count on that, I’m sure those hypocritical FC members will vote for him again.
That’s pathetic. $65K over a career? Would that buy a cup of weekend coffee for him and his staff over the career? Probably most of it as Romney’s VP pick.
Go look up Koch and NeverTrump. This wasn’t about Ryan. It was about backstabbing Trump. Ryan didn’t even have to be there and they would have obstructed.
They hate Trump.
They overplayed their hand... they are the big losers and if you think otherwise you are naive.
If Obamacare continues and it implodes.. which it almost certainly will, doing something about it becomes a priority for all involved... and if democrats get on board the bill created will certainly be far worse as far as what the freedom caucus would like and Trump and others won’t need their votes to pass it.. so their impact will be minimal to none.
Trump just won big, even though it’s being spun as a loss, because people are so short sighted.
Trump just showed he’d walk away... and not did he walk away when the anger as to what just happen manefests. It won’t be at Trump. For 7 years the republican brand has marketed itself on getting rid of Obamacare... and when they finally had all they needed.. they didn’t get it done. You can argue the failings or merits of the bill all day, it won’t matter... The R brand took a huge Hit... not that voters wanting it gone will vote D next time... but they will stay home... especially if you look in any way responsible for failing to do what you campaigned on for nearly a decade.
Trump will move on to other things, but don’t think he lost.. there is now no doubt in Washington that Trump will walk away, something politicians are not used to. These guys completely overplayed their hand just like Dems did when they put Obamacare on the books in the first place
That was just for in 2012.
They’ve given him over $100K, over the years.
It compares to what INSURANCE companies have given him, though....
Northwestern Mutual ~ $258,360
Blue Cross/Blue Shield ~ $144,250
Koch Industries ~ $130,422
Let’s see.
If you oppose the Freedom Caucus you favor Ryan.
If you oppose the Freedom Caucus you also favor Trump.
Ryan and Trump both are pushing the same flawed garbage.
What is disgusting is hypocritical fools that can’t see that Trump and the RINOs running Congress are equivalent. Trump equals RINO.
Yes.
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
A smelly goat by any other name (RynoCare, TrumpCare, etc etc) would stink just as bad. And the stink would have been on Republicans.
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