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Conservative Republicans are Today's Biggest Losers
Kinvig on Politics ^ | 3-24-17 | Cameron Kinvig

Posted on 03/24/2017 8:05:54 PM PDT by ckinv368

The Republican effort to repeal and replace Obamacare—the American Health Care Act—finally came up for a final vote in the House. First put forward by Speaker Paul Ryan in 2009, it offered few surprises to Republicans. And the effort itself was very familiar, as Republicans had voted over 60 times to repeal Obamacare since its passage eight years ago. Yet, when the time came to exercise the prerogative of the majority and finally repeal and replace President Obama’s deeply flawed social program, Republicans came up short.

Over the past two weeks, moderate Republicans argued that they could not vote for a plan that did not keep certain fail-safe protections for the elderly in place. Conservative Republicans—many in the so-called “Freedom Caucus”—complained that Ryan’s plan kept popular portions of Obamacare on the books. They wanted a complete repeal, and many would accept nothing less. In the end, no-one got their wish. As Speaker Ryan admitted this afternoon, “we are going to be living with Obamacare for the foreseeable future.” This, in part, because the Trump Administration refuses to have its agenda held hostage. It is sidelining healthcare and moving forward with tax reform.

Democrats are celebrating Republican missteps. And the collective finger-pointing within the Republican establishment has already begun in earnest. An early contender for sacrificial lamb is Speaker Ryan.

Without doubt, Ryan’s plan was far from perfect. As provisions were added, modified, and deleted, it became less a divination of policy genius, and more a Golden Corral smorgasbord of disparate measures designed to keep factions of the Republican Party moderately happy. Deficit reduction went down. Entitlements and complexity increased. Projections of coverage availability plummeted. Was it the plan any Republican in the House could fall in love with? Certainly not. Was it a plan that could get past a centrist-Republican Senate which had expressed significant doubts? Possibly.

Some have already blamed Ryan for failing to whip the necessary Republican votes to pass the bill. Indications were that he was as few as five votes short. With additional tweaks, pressure, threats, and a hard weekend push, the bill may have gotten across the goal line. However, that effort may have created so much ill-will that it could have hobbled the President’s policy goals for the next four years.

Conservative Republicans have been quick to point fingers at moderate Republicans, saying that these “RINOs” merely wanted to pass Obamacare-lite, without “real change.” However, the reality for Republicans in swing districts is that it’s politically difficult to remove insurance from a projected 24 million Americans over the next decade. Taking entitlements away is much more painful than granting them. And, it should also be remembered that moderate Republicans were much more willing to compromise in this effort than their hard-line brethren.

While pointing fingers, conservative Republicans in Congress should look in the mirror. Maybe these Republicans meant well, in a naïve sort of way. After all, Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona (a dentist) told The Washington Post that he came to Washington “to do health care right.” Rep. Louie Gohmert said that “a no vote means we save Donald Trump from a Democratic majority in 2019.” Others vehemently argue that Obamacare should be immediately repealed, but that Congress should give itself until midterms to pontificate over a replacement (all, while millions of Americans lose health coverage). Unfortunately, none of this is politically feasible. Was the American Health Care Act exactly what the Freedom Caucus wanted? No. Did it offer conservatives the best healthcare deal they may ever get? Probably. The time had come to pass a plan that could receive 216 votes in the House, and 51 in the Senate. Conservative Republicans blew it big time.

By comparison, President Trump is nothing if not pragmatic. In an interview with Robert Costa of The Washington Post, he argued that his next efforts at healthcare reform will garner bi-partisan support once Obamacare premiums exponentially increase, coverage options decrease, and the program implodes. This is good politics. But, a bi-partisan effort guarantees that the Freedom Caucus will be locked out of negotiations, with the bill too centrist for their taste. Trump said so himself. When asked whether a bi-partisan bill would free him from having to court those farthest to the Right, he replied “a lot of people might say that,” opining that such a possibility would “end up with a better health-care plan. A great plan. And you wouldn’t need the Freedom Caucus.”

There is an old saying in Texas that seems particularly appropriate: "pigs get fat, but hogs get slaughtered." That colloquialism pretty much sums up the predicament conservative Republicans now find themselves in. By asking for too much, being too greedy, and demanding unrealistic provisions that had little chance of surviving a Senate vote, they may have shown themselves expendable. There’s little doubt in my mind that the healthcare debate is not over. But conservative Republicans and the Freedom Caucus may be left out of the fold the next time votes are counted.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; concerntroll; defeatism; donaldtrump; obamacare; paulryan; pimpmyblog; rinotroll
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1 posted on 03/24/2017 8:05:54 PM PDT by ckinv368
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To: ckinv368

Conservative Republicans are Today’s Biggest Losers


Why? Because they didn’t want to sign off on a garbage bill?


2 posted on 03/24/2017 8:08:19 PM PDT by boycott
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To: ckinv368

Fake news.


3 posted on 03/24/2017 8:11:01 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: ckinv368

100% backwards, they saved the day


4 posted on 03/24/2017 8:11:35 PM PDT by Emergencyawesome
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To: ckinv368

There was no repeal, there was only rearranging of Obamacare.


5 posted on 03/24/2017 8:13:11 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ckinv368

If this is losing, I’m happy to lose every day.


6 posted on 03/24/2017 8:13:50 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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To: ckinv368
Concur; the obstructionist caucus gave the Democrats a victory over President Trump and he has to deal with them to get a deal, not the Republicans alone.

"While pointing fingers, conservative Republicans in Congress should look in the mirror. Maybe these Republicans meant well, in a naïve sort of way. After all, Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona (a dentist) told The Washington Post that he came to Washington “to do health care right.” Rep. Louie Gohmert said that “a no vote means we save Donald Trump from a Democratic majority in 2019.” Others vehemently argue that Obamacare should be immediately repealed, but that Congress should give itself until midterms to pontificate over a replacement (all, while millions of Americans lose health coverage). Unfortunately, none of this is politically feasible. Was the American Health Care Act exactly what the Freedom Caucus wanted? No. Did it offer conservatives the best healthcare deal they may ever get? Probably. The time had come to pass a plan that could receive 216 votes in the House, and 51 in the Senate. Conservative Republicans blew it big time.

By comparison, President Trump is nothing if not pragmatic. In an interview with Robert Costa of The Washington Post, he argued that his next efforts at healthcare reform will garner bi-partisan support once Obamacare premiums exponentially increase, coverage options decrease, and the program implodes. This is good politics. But, a bi-partisan effort guarantees that the Freedom Caucus will be locked out of negotiations, with the bill too centrist for their taste. Trump said so himself. When asked whether a bi-partisan bill would free him from having to court those farthest to the Right, he replied “a lot of people might say that,” opining that such a possibility would “end up with a better health-care plan. A great plan. And you wouldn’t need the Freedom Caucus.”

7 posted on 03/24/2017 8:13:53 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Parley Baer

“Fake news” is right!!!


8 posted on 03/24/2017 8:15:10 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: Emergencyawesome

Correct. Amazing how many freepers wanted to pass anything even if it meant owning Obamacare with minor changes.


9 posted on 03/24/2017 8:15:35 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ckinv368

The mandatory requirement had to go, along with all instances of “..as the (bureaucrat in charge) shall determine..”.


10 posted on 03/24/2017 8:16:55 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: ckinv368

Yep.


11 posted on 03/24/2017 8:17:50 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: ckinv368

The stupid, it burns. The left’s glee over the failure of RINOCare will become an albatross around their necks.


12 posted on 03/24/2017 8:18:26 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: ckinv368

Conservatives avoided having the collapsing socialized medicine fiasco rebranded as a Republican product.

More Winning.


13 posted on 03/24/2017 8:20:35 PM PDT by MrEdd (MrEdd)
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To: boycott
No, because they demand perfection in an imperfect world, and that which they seek will always remain elusive to them.

But with that being said, I wonder, because I honestly don't know, how many Freedom Caucus members voted to make Paul Ryan speaker, I do hope it was zero.

14 posted on 03/24/2017 8:21:21 PM PDT by WhatNot (The Gospel doesn't promise the American dream, it promises Eternal life in the Kingdom of God.)
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Ryan protected a lot of frauds by not having a vote.


15 posted on 03/24/2017 8:21:24 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners.)
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To: ckinv368

Not bad, but logic screams to us that without the HFC’s efforts today he would never get to when “... his next efforts at healthcare reform will garner bi-partisan support once Obamacare premiums exponentially increase, coverage options decrease, and the program implodes. “


16 posted on 03/24/2017 8:22:01 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“There was no repeal, there was only rearranging of Obamacare.”

It cut the taxes while leaving the expenses and the regulations. Would have ended in disaster.


17 posted on 03/24/2017 8:22:03 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: ckinv368
No they aren't; n00b!

The BIG LOSERS are the DEMS!

WHY?

Because ObamaCare is still intact...well as "intact" as something that is crumbling, rapidly, to smithereenes, daily and will go completely bust shortly, all the while, costing the populace more and more and MORE money, with less and less, and LESS ability to get any kind of care at all.

18 posted on 03/24/2017 8:22:07 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ckinv368

There are two issues here.

Actual medical care, and patients’ access to it at market costs, including insurance for catastrophes.

And the phony fight between congressional factions.

You are only focusing on number two.


19 posted on 03/24/2017 8:22:21 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: ckinv368

The conservatives made the right pragmatic choice in rejecting Ryancare. A RINOcrap sandwich is still a crap sandwich.


20 posted on 03/24/2017 8:22:49 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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